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 What do they say about Bush?
 Some who deserve re-election?

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And what are the numbers?
Forty-five percent say yes...

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Forty-nine percent say no.

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Democrats, eighty-four percent say no.

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Eighty-four percent of Republicans
they say yes.

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Independents, fifty-one percent say
that he does not deserve re-election.

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 That's a red flag.
 And what about John Kerry?

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 Is it good news?
 It should be.

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It's John Kerry's numbers, Tom.
Positive negatives.

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Positive thirty-eight percent
Negative thirty-eight percent.

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This thing is still up for grabs.

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Washington, D. W . - October 2004

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Mr. Hibey will see you now.

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Thanks.

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Ms. Mapes.

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I'm Dick Hibey. How can I help?

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Oh, I think you know.

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 I know ?
 You don't expect a woman like me...

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Do you know?
 No. But it's good, and useful.

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Yes. You mean it harms
my radical feminine agenda.

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Do you have a radical feminine agenda?
 Do you know many radical leaders?

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Do you have a substance abuse problem?

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I'm working on developing one.

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 I'm serious.
 Oh, me too.

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You came to me.
And if you're not ready for this...

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I've been in the news twenty years.
I won two Emmys, I was arrested in Abu Ghraib...

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I received prison time for not revealing my sources.
I don't have a female agenda...

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I don't have substance abuse problems.
Although now I take a Xanax...

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Because this is already driving me crazy.

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Do you have water?

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 Thanks.
 You have to be prepared...

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for questions of this type.
-I'm ready for it.

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There is a recurring interest in a topic
in the stories you cover.

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 People abuse power.
I don't like abusers.

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Tell me about your work.

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You want to know if I'm responsible
for what happened.

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 And isn't it?
Look, I did my job, believe me.

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I don't have to believe you.

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What matters is whether they believe in you.
Now, tell me about your work.

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I'm the producer. I find the story.

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I joined the team.
I write the story and cut the play.

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I work 60 minutes.

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And what do you like?

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Which one of you ordered duck?

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 It must have been Tom.
 Gurdanapo.

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 Thanks. Fat.
 Thanks.

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New York April 2004
Six months before

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 Are they really going to execute it this time?
 Yes they will execute it.

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 because you said the same thing last week.
They're going to execute you, Roger.

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Hey, do you want me to use this?

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Oh, Jesus, no, it looks like the genitals
they were attacked by crazy cubites.

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Maybe you darken this area a little.

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Okay.

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Maybe like this?

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Okay, now it looks like there's a black hole.

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 Where no light can escape.
 Are they really going to excute him?

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Because Sy Hersh knows this...

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he will write a story
on how we waited 3 weeks.

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Dana, can you tell Roger they will
 execute him, and then beat him for me?

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I have to go get it.

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Are you able to finish?

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He was the first journalist to break the news
John F. Kennedy was shot.

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Andrew Beyward President of CBS News

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Andrew Beyward President of CBS News
He described in detail the zapruder film to the nation...

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I wasn't allowed to see him.

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Became correspondent for the White House
at 33 years old...

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Chief correspondent in London a year later

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Brought the horrors of the Vietnam War
into American homes for the first time

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He covered the Russians in Afghanistan,
the hostages in Iran...

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And in 1981, he became a presenter
from CBS News every night.

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He is now a presenter
more nightly news...

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than any other in United States history.

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It's not bad for the son
 of trench digger from Wharton, Texas.

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Ladies and gentlemen,
I introduce my friend...

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It's the reason I have this job,
Dan Rather.

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Enough time to give us
a big market share, I tell you.

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It's been a great pleasure. Great pleasure.
 Hey, Andrew, I need it.

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Well, you're not taking him.
You say that, but I'm here.

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 Do you have it?
 Yes, in a hotel two blocks from here.

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 Let's go.
 Dan, you can't abandon your own party.

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 I have 50 affiliates and their wives...
 I know.

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Waiting to talk to you. I know, I know.
Curse.

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 Do you want to finish this? I've already had three.
 Mary.

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I can take that, Mr. Heyward.

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You know?

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General. This is Dan Rather.

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General.
Sir.

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Thanks for doing this.

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Let's start at the beginning.

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The Americans did this to Iraqi prisoners.

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According to the US Army,
The man was told to remain standing on top of the box...

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With his head covered in wires
Clutching your hands.

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He was told that if he falls out of the box,
he will be electrocuted.

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It was this scene
and a dozen others...

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That led to an investigation
Made by the American Army.

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Yesterday, we asked
General Mark Kimmitt...

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Vice director
of the coalition operations in Iraq...

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What went wrong.

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Every day we love our soldiers,
but weakly...

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Some days we don't always have
pride in our soldiers.

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The military says six U.S. soldiers
have been accused so far...

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 And they can go to military court
other superiors...

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in the chain of command
with disciplinary processes.

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I remember when you said
"courage" at the end of each broadcast.

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Do you remember that?
 I remember. Do you remember?

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You must be very old.

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 Why did you stop?
 They started making fun of him for that.

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 No.
 No, they did.

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Seriously. Imagine?
 Oh, yes.

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Come on, say "courage," Dan.

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 No, come on. Mary.
 Come on, just one.

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 For me.
 I don't think so.

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 For me, for me.
Come on.

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just a little one.

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Color...

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 come on, please.
 come on.

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 Do you really want it?
 I want it too, yes.

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Courage.

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 Well, it worked once.
He said. he said.

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Hey. Here's to a great story.

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Yes, when I finally found out, I didn't say more

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 Yes.
 F.E.A.

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F.E.A.

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I'm sitting with my mother.
Thanks for being here mom.

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No. Thank you for having me.

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Mom, some time ago
you were away again.

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 What were you doing?
 I was in New York working in the news.

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So what were you doing?

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I asked questions.
Questions that helped reporters know the truth.

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Were you with the man filming?

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Interesting.

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Can I have a new camera, please?
 Well, I have to talk to your father first.

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I'm here trying to get the truth,
mother.

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Answer the question.

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I think this interview is over.

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 Okay.
 Nice try.

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Today President Bush said he was
disgusted by the photographs of Iraqi soldiers...

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Being harassed by American soldiers.

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You caused a bit of trouble, didn't you?

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Who, me?
You didn't let Robbie see it, did you?

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Yes, because
I'm the worst father ever.

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Do you want to go for a walk?
  I've been a bad boy, but I have a cookie for you...
  Mike

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No, I think I have work.

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Mary, Thanks for coming.
Look, there's no big problem.

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We love him.
We love what you have done...

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Let's talk about the new season...
What do you think?

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I might have something for the elections.

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There's a businessman from Hoston
named Bill White...

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What does it say, what does it have documents
Which shows the Bin Laden family...

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They are investors in Arbusto.

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Bush? Bush's Oil Company?

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You know, it could just be too much noise
and fury, but Vanity Fair is for him too.

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You know,
this entire time period for Bush is false.

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How fake?

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Well, I did some work in 2000.

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 Do you know Ben Barnes?
 No.

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Oh, he's an old Texas politician.

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Barnes says that when he went
The speaker of the Texas house...

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In 68 during Vietnam...

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Sid Adger, and one of the oil majors,
enter your office...

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And asks George Bush for help...

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Join the National Guard as a pilot.

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Old Bush, at this point
He's a congressman...

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And Barnes is a figure
that can use the connections.

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So he says he called Geral Rose,
who runs the Texas Air National Guard...

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And he receives Bush in his office.

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Barnes told you that?

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In private. Msa he tells the same
 story for years now.

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Then I call Buck Staudt,
Bush squadron commander...

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And he starts screaming at me,
saying Barnes is shit...

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Because everyone knows that he is the one who has
 Bush in the Guard, not Barnes.

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Anyway, while Bush is on guard,
he meets a guy called James Bath.

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And they become active friends.

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And after leaving the guard,
no CV to speak of...

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He becomes
chief financial representative...

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For the interests of the bin Laden family
in Texas.

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Bush, open Bush,
Bath writes him a check for $50,000.

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What does your White friend,
claims it's with bin Laden's money...

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Okay. Okay, let's write.

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But if we move forward with this, it has to be quick.
We can surprise them in October.

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All good. If you are to start, I would like
to bring in some other people to help.

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Who?

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Colonel Roger Charles.

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Abu Ghraib worked for us.
graduate of the Naval Academy.

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Two missions in Vietnam, and at the Pentagon.

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When he's not working for us, he's trying
improve armor for soldiers in Iraq.

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Who else?

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Well, since Dana is on maternity leave,
I wish I had Lucy Scott to run the point.

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She's a CBS veteran,
journalism professor in Dallas.

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So this man, Mike Smith?

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Mikey shut up those who work for Molly Ivins.
He did research for us in 2000.

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Last I heard, he worked for us
strange from People.com...

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He entered cocktail parties in disguise
to find out who is sleeping with who.

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Now when you say "shit sport",
 I was just saying have fun...

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Or is it like actively trying
compete in what you do?

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It's a crack team.

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Trust in me.

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Are you really going to do it this time?

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The bad lords, executives
Will they let you do it?

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It's good to see you too, Mikey.

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CBS is talking
about the closure of offices abroad...

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They are going more in the direction of
computer nonsense.

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They won't touch the news division,
while Dan is there.

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Dan won't be there forever.
They will find a way to run the old man out.

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Why does he go into journalism anyway?
if he won't cover the difficult stories?

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How have you been, Mikey?

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I'm eating pasta three meals a day...

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Steal cable TV.

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I could have a job.

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Come on, meet everyone.

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Well, hell's bells,
Did you bring a hippie?

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This is Mike Smith,
we worked together on this in 2000.

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 It doesn't have any social aspect.
 That is true.

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Your tip Arbusto is shit.

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Bin Laden's money never came close to Bush's.

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Okay.

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What am I doing here?

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What are you looking at
It's from George W. Bush...

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It's the entire archive of the Texas Air National Guard.

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 You mean what's left of him, right?
 This is affirmative.

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Wait, wait, wait.

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You are making a paper trail.

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Let me show you what we have.

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Start here.

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May, 1968.

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The bloodiest month of the Vietnam War.

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Bush accepted into the Texas Air National Guard
to train pilots.

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And if you believe Ben Barnes,
he put Bush on the waiting list.

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If there was ever a waiting list.
Some say yes, others say no.

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Bush says he got in quickly
because they were looking for pilots...

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 What a beef with the pilots
spinning around Vietnam.

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And that's another thing.

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Training a National Guard pilot
from start to finish, which is a huge rarity.

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 Why?
 It's not profitable.

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Those from the Air National Guard...

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They are former Air Force pilots
who want to maintain their ratings.

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Why spend a million dollars
training a new pilot...

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When can you get one that
the Air Force taught how to fly.

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The only thing that makes Bush a candidate
 attractiveness is who he is connected to.

241
00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:31,841
Well, anyway, he's in.

242
00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:34,686
He signs for a six-year commitment.

243
00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:36,723
He did his pilot training at Moody...

244
00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:40,521
Then he is admitted to the 111th
 Intercept Squadron in Houston.

245
00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:43,485
Now the log shows
that he worked very well here.

246
00:13:43,680 --> 00:13:47,446
High ratings in all periods,
until the spring of 1972...

247
00:13:47,680 --> 00:13:52,322
When he is suspended in writing
due to lack of a routine examination.

248
00:13:52,560 --> 00:13:55,325
How does someone pass
for being a top pilot...

249
00:13:55,560 --> 00:13:57,085
For one who can't even get a physical exam?

250
00:13:57,280 --> 00:14:01,285
Well, not only that, but he asks
and it is granted...

251
00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:05,730
A transfer to Alabama where
helps a friend in his Senate campaign.

252
00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:08,924
Wait, then he disobeys an order
and then let him transfer?

253
00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:10,924
Oh, hey, it even gets better.

254
00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:13,925
From May 1972 to May 1973...

255
00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:18,609
The record shows that there are no points
recorded in the Bush registry.

256
00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:22,771
Points. They're like hours on a card
time in the Guard.

257
00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:26,800
Which basically means
is that Bush never showed up.

258
00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:29,924
Commander Alabama,
he has no memory of it.

259
00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:32,407
No witnesses remember him
on that base.

260
00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:36,247
And there is no
paperwork to prove he was there.

261
00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:39,489
So you're telling me that
the president of the United States...

262
00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:43,241
He may have been a deserter to the military
for more than a year?

263
00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:44,811
We have no proof of this.

264
00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:50,203
 What will the White House say?
That Bush served with honor...

265
00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:52,687
And that military records will disappear
at all times.

266
00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:55,770
By the way Military records are not missing
all the time.

267
00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:58,804
They are military.
They're good at shit.

268
00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:04,080
Now the next time Bush appears
in the official record it is in July 1973...

269
00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:05,964
When he shows up to get away.

270
00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:09,323
And then, in September 1973...

271
00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:14,765
He asks and is granted
an early dismissal. Why?

272
00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:19,284
So that he can participate in
Harvard Business School.

273
00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:22,205
So he asks to leave nine months early
and they just let it.

274
00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:25,006
So, what are the questions that
do we look for an answer?

275
00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:28,329
One, if Bush went to
Guard to avoid going to Vietnam?

276
00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:32,650
Not to be cynical, but I didn't want to get into
in the Guard to avoid 'Vietnam at that time?

277
00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:34,524
Me.

278
00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:37,963
Bush's coach
147 said he wanted to go to Vietnam.

279
00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:42,649
There is only one
document that links with this in the official register.

280
00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:47,368
On the question of wanting a
transfer abroad...

281
00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:48,967
Bush, it was verified no.

282
00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:52,050
Bush's coach said
that must have been a mistake.

283
00:15:52,247 --> 00:15:56,040
 Because this is a question that starts off wrong.
 Two, why does he avoid the physical?

284
00:15:56,240 --> 00:16:00,006
Well, it's not like he has a drug problem.
He just liked the way it smelled.

285
00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:02,248
Okay, three.

286
00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:06,724
If someone put him in the Guard,
then who?

287
00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:10,770
How the hell can we get
such records?

288
00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:13,804
Forty-one percent
They want Bush re-elected...

289
00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:15,764
While 51 percent do not.

290
00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:19,367
Ben Barnes former governor of Texas

It's that time of year again...

291
00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:25,124
When I have to push away advances
of a beautiful woman like you?

292
00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:30,850
Governor, you have the president of
United States in the National Guard.

293
00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:35,170
My God,
I find this very impressive.

294
00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:37,488
It's impressive, isn't it?

295
00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:39,396
Why don't you come on TV and tell us all about it.

296
00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:42,365
Oh, we both know that if I ever said it...

297
00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:47,208
Something about Texas' favorite son on a camera,
I would be executed and dumped on some trail in Austin.

298
00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:49,169
No, sorry, Mary.

299
00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:52,688
 Johnny wins this thing, anyway.

300
00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:56,642
Barnes is still a no. Who's next?

301
00:16:57,120 --> 00:17:00,124
Colonel Jerry Killian.
Bush's Operational Command of the 111th.

302
00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:02,561
If anyone knows what really happened,
he knows.

303
00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:04,046
Little problem there.

304
00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:06,402
 What it is?
 Killian is dead.

305
00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:11,211
 That's a pickle.
Who's next?

306
00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:12,526
General Buck Staudt.

307
00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:16,287
Former Operative Command
of Bush's 147th Interceptor Squadron.

308
00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:18,767
George was one of the best pilots
that I ever had.

309
00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:22,567
So I am respectfully inviting you
to go fuck yourself.

310
00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:24,640
General Bobby Hodges...

311
00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:28,606
Achieved status as commander
at 147, Killian's direct supervisor.

312
00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:31,883
My husband says no
strings were pulled for him.

313
00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:35,368
Now please stop calling our house.

314
00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:38,961
Maurice Udell, Bush's flight instructor.

315
00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:40,850
No strings were pulled for him.

316
00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:44,243
I thought he would be a great
American and a great fighter pilot.

317
00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:47,371
Tom Honeycutt.

318
00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:50,086
No strings were pulled.

319
00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:52,880
Albert Lloyd.

320
00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:56,527
 No strings were pulled.
 Motherf...

321
00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:00,485
Bill Hollowell.

322
00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:04,167
No strings were pulled.
And even if they were, it's no question.

323
00:18:04,360 --> 00:18:07,842
Hey! Hey! Walk, you son of a bitch!

324
00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:16,246
It was like I had to give it to them
discussion points.

325
00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:19,091
He was a great man,
the strings were not pulled.

326
00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:22,767
Well, it's the devil's advocate, Mary.
What if the strings were not pulled?

327
00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:25,281
Do you know who else was in 147?

328
00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:26,686
Lloyd Bentsen's son...

329
00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:29,486
Son of John Connally,
the two Sid Adger brothers...

330
00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:32,889
Grandson of H. L. Hunt,
the heirs of the Sakowitz fortune...

331
00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:36,050
And half of
Dallas Cowboys starting line.

332
00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:38,208
Yes, I'm sure it's just a coincidence.

333
00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:40,922
So what's our next step?

334
00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:45,161
I have no idea.

335
00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:48,845
 I serve with John Kerry.
 I serve with John Kerry.

336
00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:52,408
John Kerry was not honest
about what happened in Vietnam.

337
00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:53,761
He's lying about his record.

338
00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:57,169
I know John Kerry is lying
about your first Purple Heart...

339
00:18:57,400 --> 00:18:58,811
Because I treated him for a wound.

340
00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:01,048
John Kerry lied to get his Bronze Star.

341
00:19:01,263 --> 00:19:03,664
I know, I was there,
I saw what happened.

342
00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:07,726
Your account of what happened
and what really happened...

343
00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:10,526
They are the difference
between day and night.

344
00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:12,290
 Yes?
 Who is it?

345
00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:14,289
And my secret lover, go back to sleep.

346
00:19:14,487 --> 00:19:18,651
Have you ever heard of Linda Starr?

347
00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:22,726
She operates this website, as
a clearinghouse for anti-Bush material.

348
00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:27,005
She has been hunting for documents
which will be released soon.

349
00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:29,091
What type of documents?

350
00:19:30,120 --> 00:19:32,122
Mary Mapes on line two.

351
00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:33,970
Thanks.

352
00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:37,487
 Mary.
 Yes, I think we have something.

353
00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:39,762
Anti-Bush, Internet shaker.

354
00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:44,887
Oh, God, I talked to her for three hours,
but she didn't put me in touch with her source.

355
00:19:45,120 --> 00:19:47,327
A colonel who says he can gain access...

356
00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:50,126
To missing documents
in the Bush Guard archive.

357
00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:53,887
 It looks promising.
 I have Mike Smith talking to him now.

358
00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:56,924
 Milk?  Take a look at these documents.

359
00:19:57,120 --> 00:20:00,488
And do some investigations about the colonel,
make sure he's not crazy.

360
00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:06,401
Thanks.

361
00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:08,444
 Enjoy.
 Thanks.

362
00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:12,449
No. I saw it.

363
00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:16,646
I saw it with my own eyes.
The parts of the Bush file I didn't like...

364
00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:19,571
They threw it in the trash can.
- Do you have these documents?

365
00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:23,526
Bill tried to talk about this in 2000,
Someone ran us off the road one night.

366
00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:27,691
 I'm not afraid of them.
 Well, but I have. I'm scared.

367
00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:32,603
Alright, let's say
That I have the documents.

368
00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:36,931
Why should I show them to you?
Why not one of the other newspapers?

369
00:20:37,120 --> 00:20:40,761
 Because nobody reads newspapers.
 One of the other televisions, then.

370
00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:43,725
I don't know if you noticed,
But there aren't many people...

371
00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:46,042
Really doing what we do.

372
00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:49,244
We're on 60 minutes.
We are the gold standard.

373
00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:51,329
We can help you.

374
00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:54,482
Look, you appear on camera...

375
00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:56,648
No. No. Not cameras.

376
00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:58,410
Our name is left out of this.

377
00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:01,086
They will destroy us,
you don't understand.

378
00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:05,120
Nicki, listen.
I know what it's like to be bullied.

379
00:21:05,360 --> 00:21:08,682
 Feel they are very strong,
and you are small and powerless.

380
00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:10,530
But you're not.

381
00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:12,722
And doing this will show them that it is not.

382
00:21:13,120 --> 00:21:14,326
Now, I promise...

383
00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:17,171
That we will protect you.

384
00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:53,202
These are signed by Jerry Killian.
Yes, they are.

385
00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:58,762
The first says
that Bush made no attempt...

386
00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:01,844
To finish your training certification.

387
00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:05,283
That's the big difference
than just missing the physical.

388
00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:08,927
The second and about
 his pilot position was critical.

389
00:22:09,127 --> 00:22:13,496
Well, Bush said he stopped flying
because more pilots were no longer needed.

390
00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:16,724
This document
would prove this statement to be false.

391
00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:19,651
Have you ever thought if someone
I wanted to deceive these...

392
00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:21,882
Like a dirty political trick?

393
00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:25,811
I can't think of anyone
that you hate me that much.

394
00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:28,401
Do you have the originals of these?

395
00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:31,285
No. No, I was only given copies.

396
00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:35,607
And don't ask me where I got them,
I won't tell you anything else.

397
00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:39,009
You for having your own experts,
 If you want, let them take a look.

398
00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:41,009
 We will.
 We will.

399
00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:44,729
September 15th, but we still don't have a program.

400
00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:46,849
CBS is airing The Billy Graham Crusade.

401
00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:51,250
 What about 22?
 Inappropriate again. Dr. Phil special.

402
00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:53,886
So our air date is decided
by an unholy confluence...

403
00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:56,361
Enter Billy Graham
and Dr. Phil McGraw?

404
00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:59,804
Jesus..
News doesn't pay the bills.

405
00:23:00,120 --> 00:23:01,565
There is one more option.

406
00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:05,129
 At eight.
As in five days from now?

407
00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:09,682
 If you don't think...
 I need the interviews.

408
00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:13,362
I need to get the whole team to New York
and I need... First, I need Dan.

409
00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:14,721
Where is he?

410
00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:18,891
Hurricane Frances
is lashing the coast of Florida...

411
00:23:19,120 --> 00:23:22,522
Harder than a strong man trying
to win a Kewpie doll at Carnival!

412
00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:24,768
I will kill him.

413
00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:30,127
Maybe you don't need to do this.

414
00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:35,003
Maybe I can take it
Come to Austin for a great interview.

415
00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:39,603
I received an email from the colonel about
the documents, saying, "I feel better."

416
00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:45,683
 Yes?
 A memo for the record...

417
00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:47,530
It's a memo to no one, right?

418
00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:49,529
So why does Killian archive them?

419
00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:53,571
Well, Killian knows that suspending a guy
That this is protected is a serious business.

420
00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:57,765
She's trying to do the right thing here, but
You need a paper trail to isolate yourself.

421
00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:01,806
What does protection mean
Bush must have come higher than Killian.

422
00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:04,411
Are you thinking about Hodges?

423
00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:08,207
He was Killian's direct supervisor.
I'll call you back.

424
00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:21,769
You called the Hodges residence,
 please leave a message.

425
00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:24,887
General Hodges,
Mary Mapes from 60 Minutes.

426
00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:27,481
I was thinking
if you could call me back.

427
00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:29,728
Big shit!

428
00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:34,370
You have to see this.
It's a video from a cell phone...

429
00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:37,006
A Democratic fundraiser.

430
00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:39,480
Now... Thank you. Thanks.

431
00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:43,446
Now, let's talk about
 John Kerry and George Bush.....

432
00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:47,486
 Is that Ben Barnes?
 And I'm not saying names.

433
00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:51,443
You see, I have a young
called George Bush....

434
00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:55,850
In the Air National Guard when,
I was lieutenant governor of Texas.

435
00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:58,771
Now, I'm not necessarily
proud of it, but....

436
00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:00,689
Big shit!

437
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:05,568
I didn't know they were recording.
Did you see? I looked like shit!

438
00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:10,084
 I thought you looked wonderful, Ben.
Oh, don't you start.

439
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:13,449
The cat is already out of the bag
and your man Kerry and 10 points down.

440
00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:17,486
We will show this piece in five days.
Are you in or not?

441
00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:20,925
 We got him! We have Barnes!
 Burkett just called.

442
00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:24,164
He has more memos to deliver.
 We need to find its source.

443
00:25:24,360 --> 00:25:26,203
 Okay.
 At the airport in the morning.

444
00:25:26,360 --> 00:25:29,489
 I'll send a fax when I get there.
 Yes!

445
00:25:31,188 --> 00:25:33,655
September 4th - 4 days for issuance

446
00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:36,362
"Bush wasn't here during qualifying and
I don't have any feedback...

447
00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:43,125
From 187 in Alabama he was worthless
Austin wasn't happy either."

448
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:46,767
"Bush wasn't here
during the evaluation period."

449
00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:51,921
They're trying to get Killian a rating
for Bush even though he is not at the base.

450
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:55,724
This is proof that he is a deserter.

451
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:02,602
Who can I talk to first?

452
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:06,805
Is there any doubt in your mind
that these memos are genuine?

453
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:11,324
Well, they're compatible with the way
to do business at that time.

454
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:14,808
They are compatible with the way of being
that I remember Jerry Killian.

455
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,810
And what do you think Colonel Killian
were you trying to do?

456
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,685
I think he was trying
do your duty...

457
00:26:20,888 --> 00:26:25,212
And he was trying to protect himself
because of the political environment.

458
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:29,803
So political pressures
Were they a major force in the Guard?

459
00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:38,524
It bordered on rampant corruption,
the favors that were done...

460
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:41,121
The power that was commercialized.

461
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:44,171
From a moral and ethical point of view...

462
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:46,729
It was inconceivable.

463
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:51,242
Let's go to New York.

464
00:27:00,360 --> 00:27:02,761
I didn't get a chance to introduce myself
.

465
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:05,122
 Dan Rather.
 Don't tell me.

466
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:08,130
I mean, I'm Mike Smith. I'm familiar...

467
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:11,529
I mean... I... I... I... Hello.

468
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:15,721
You know, Mary told me that you are the one who
calls him "the old man".

469
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:21,051
Well, I... I really wish
she hadn't shared this with you.

470
00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:26,451
Look, I appreciate the hard work
what you're doing about this.

471
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:29,246
Asking questions is important.

472
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:31,807
Some people will say
that doesn't matter.

473
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:34,964
One side or the other will always say
you are being partisan.

474
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:38,482
But if you stop asking questions,
That's when the American people lose.

475
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:41,331
Now this may sound corny,
but I believe in it.

476
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:43,682
So keep it.

477
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:48,204
 Yes or no. Thanks.

478
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,129
You are welcome.

479
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:55,482
You know what's crazy?

480
00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,407
A lot of things are crazy.

481
00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:02,650
Tell me specifically
what you feel is crazy.

482
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:06,162
The fact that they kept that secret
 so long.

483
00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:14,680
Do you know why Mary didn't make it?
this story in 2000, don't you know?

484
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:21,841
Mary's mother died...

485
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:24,122
Right in the middle of it.

486
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:28,560
And so the story was never finished
and the election took place.

487
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:33,243
An election that was decided
by 537 votes.

488
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:34,967
I think...

489
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:38,684
What if Mary's mother
hadn't died that summer...

490
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:42,726
There is a good chance that
AI Gore would be president now.

491
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:48,887
And her father?

492
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:55,045
Mary's father
He's a fucking drunk...

493
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:58,443
That he hated himself so much,
who even beat his own daughters.

494
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:04,165
No matter how direct they were,
she says, the harder he hit.

495
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,284
 So, who do you think she goes after?
 She was going to get...

496
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:10,768
 Why ask questions?
 It's correct.

497
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:14,564
And this is what she does for a living?

498
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,322
People are funny sometimes.

499
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:22,522
Partly it's the chemistry between her and Dan,
I think.

500
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:25,291
Because they work really well together.

501
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,526
That's why they need each other.

502
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,487
Fathers and daughters.

503
00:29:48,956 --> 00:29:51,423
September 6th - 2 days for issuance

504
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:53,169
Tell me about document examiners.

505
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:57,365
There are four. Marcel Matley is coming
from San Francisco to speak in front of the camera.

506
00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:00,080
Linda James in Texas
want to see the originals.

507
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:02,408
 Yes, we don't have them.
 I told you.

508
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:05,046
Jim Pierce in Los Angeles
it only started today...

509
00:30:05,287 --> 00:30:08,291
And Emily Will in North Carolina
wants you to call him.

510
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:09,606
Right. I understood.

511
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:11,962
I think you have a problem.

512
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:14,282
Emily Wil - document examiner

I have been doing research on the Internet.

513
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:18,326
President was in Alabama when
these were written, they cannot be true.

514
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:21,962
Ok. You found something wrong
in the documents themselves?

515
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:25,881
Well, no, but...
 Do they seem fake to you in some way?

516
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:28,128
Without the originals to do a paint test...
 Okay.

517
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:30,926
I'll just worry
with the investigation side of the story.

518
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:33,966
I always work the whole scene.

519
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:37,285
Look, do you know the origin of this?

520
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:39,887
Being able to establish an exact command line
I still have a long way to go

521
00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:42,008
To determine authenticity.

522
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:44,441
Yes, believe me, we are working on it.

523
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:48,440
I gave you the memos, the verification was yours,
that was the deal.

524
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:50,483
Do you still link the Kerry campaign to me?

525
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:52,762
They can't be caught
on this shitty boat.

526
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:58,490
Could you just confirm where you got it?
the memos, we would be playing at home.

527
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:01,524
 I already said I can't be on the recording.
 I know.

528
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,121
I know. You wouldn't have to stay.

529
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:08,001
You just give me a name,
Is this right? And just what I need.

530
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:12,520
George Conn.

531
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:15,003
A friend of mine in the Guard.
 Right.

532
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:18,522
He was there cleaning.
But if you ask, he will deny it.

533
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,803
 Thanks.
 Goodbye.

534
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:33,567
You called the Conn residence.
Please leave a message.

535
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,161
Colonel, I am Mary Mapes
of 60 minutes.

536
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:39,204
I was wondering if you could call me
whenever it is most convenient for you.

537
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:43,883
It's about a story that we're going to convey
on Wednesday night. Thanks.

538
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:45,605
 Matley is here.
 Yes.

539
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:49,367
Based on written tests
by hand I would say...

540
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:51,961
Marcel Matley - document examiner

Yes, this is the same person.

541
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:57,365
This signature on the document dated June 24
shows some notable differences.

542
00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,883
But it also shows some imperceptible ones...

543
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:03,481
Similarities
Colonel Killian's handwriting.

544
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:06,206
Okay, and why
Do differences like these exist?

545
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:09,046
The content of the memo
It's highly stressful...

546
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:13,524
Killian told a superior that he
He did not classify Bush during his absence.

547
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:18,169
This is enough to explain the differences
in the pen strokes.

548
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:23,561
Will you excuse me for a minute?

549
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:29,606
It's like watching paint drying.
What am I going to do?

550
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:32,844
The proof is there somewhere.
I think you can achieve something?

551
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:36,203
 Did I have cotton in my jacket?
 Two bottles of whiskey.

552
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:37,731
Okay.

553
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:46,408
So you, sir, are saying that if I present
This is for the American public...

554
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:48,807
And say that to the best of our knowledge

555
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:53,562
These documents are all signed
by the same man, can I say that?

556
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:57,486
Yes.

557
00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:01,127
Matley is a yes. Jim Pierce is a yes.
Emily Will I'm still working.

558
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:04,170
Linda James wants more documents,
but she will wait for Matley.

559
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:07,603
Dates, contents of the Burkett memoranda
tamper with the official record.

560
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:11,401
I have Graphics,
marks something to show it visually.

561
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:12,931
We don't have that yet.

562
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:16,922
Someone has to confirm
the content of these memos.

563
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:18,804
Someone who knew who the players were.

564
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:20,968
No one in the Guard will step forward.

565
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:24,806
Look what happened to Burkett. You speak,
 his head is handed over on a platter.

566
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:26,604
Who were Killian's commanders?

567
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:30,964
There is Buck Staudt, who figuratively and literally
told me to fuck off...

568
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:33,970
And Bobby Hodges,
that I left 18 messages.

569
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:39,250
Well, I'm going to be 19.

570
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:51,241
Do you feel the pizza?

571
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:56,770
I really feel like we should
start thinking about pizza.

572
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:07,644
Hello?

573
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:11,209
 General Hodges?
 Yes.

574
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:16,002
I'm Mary Mapes from 60 Minutes.

575
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:19,961
I would like to talk to you about some
old memos...

576
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:24,888
I came across the 187 Fighter Interceptor Squadron
.

577
00:34:26,240 --> 00:34:29,164
They seem to be...

578
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:33,365
From personal files
by Jerry Killian.

579
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:38,960
Well I'd like to read them to you,
if everything is ok?

580
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:40,924
All good.

581
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:48,530
Okay. The first
it is dated June 24, 1973.

582
00:34:48,720 --> 00:34:53,248
And the subject is Bush, George W.,
first lieutenant.

583
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:57,929
Sir, I received a call from your team
regarding evaluation...

584
00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:00,566
of First Lieutenant Bush, referring this month

585
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,969
Your evaluator is Lt. Col. Harris

586
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:08,603
Neither Lt. Col. Harris nor I
We feel we can evaluate First Lieutenant Bush...

587
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:13,283
Since he wasn't training
with the FIS 111th since April 1972.

588
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:17,963
Your recent
activity is outside the classification period.

589
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:21,921
Advise me like us
 we're supposed to deal with this.

590
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:28,091
Okay, the...

591
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:34,208
This is August 18, 1973
 titled CYA...

592
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:37,444
I believe it means "cover your ass"

593
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:43,691
Okay," Staudt has obviously been pushing
more Hodges over Bush.

594
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:46,884
I'm having problems running,
  interference in doing my job.

595
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:51,603
Harris gave me a message today
of the OETR Group d in relation to Bush...

596
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:54,167
And Staudt is trying to sugarcoat them.

597
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:57,284
Bush was not there during the classification period...

598
00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:00,370
And I don't have any feedback
of 187 in Alabama.

599
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:02,562
I'm not going to classify.

600
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:06,247
Austin isn't happy either.

601
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:08,920
Harris got the call from the group today.

602
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:12,522
I'll reschedule but I won't rate.

603
00:36:12,720 --> 00:36:15,087
Harris agrees"

604
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:22,531
Sir, these memos are familiar to you

605
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:25,363
They are

606
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:31,127
But using someone's personal notes,
this is too low

607
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:35,166
You're trying to make news, create here
a story, where there is no

608
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:39,206
No, sir, we're not trying
create something

609
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:43,009
Wait just a minute

610
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:45,445
We have it.

611
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:49,190
Tell me the truth the whole truth,
about what happened

612
00:36:49,215 --> 00:36:51,615
September 7th - 1 day for issuance

613
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:55,042
With George W. Bush
his sketch in the National Guard.

614
00:36:56,400 --> 00:37:01,691
Sid Adger, is a friend of the Bush family,
came to visit me...

615
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:05,282
And he asked me if I would like to recommend...

616
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:08,529
George W. Bush
for the Air National Guard.

617
00:37:08,720 --> 00:37:10,404
And I did.

618
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:13,525
I'm worried about
the enormous amount of stories we have.

619
00:37:13,720 --> 00:37:17,247
What if we break up?
You know, we pass by Barnes tomorrow...

620
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:19,761
And the documents
on Sunday's broadcast.

621
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:23,971
Sunday's show won't give us the status
real. Where are we with the rest?

622
00:37:24,288 --> 00:37:26,655
Well, I only have an email from
Emily Will in one of the examiners.

623
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:29,127
She has some concerns
about the underwriting thing.

624
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:31,926
Subscribed?
After 111 is the raised "th".

625
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:35,926
She was worried the role wasn't available
on military typewriters in the 70s.

626
00:37:36,128 --> 00:37:39,018
But I talked to Matley,
he said they were available so...

627
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:41,362
 Emily said she would postpone it.

628
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:42,686
Well, okay.

629
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:46,043
The White House will have someone to show up
on camera in the morning.

630
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:49,489
I manage to send Dan because of the storm.

631
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:52,570
The damn hurricane hates me.

632
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:55,306
Well I don't think
 I had the right

633
00:37:55,307 --> 00:37:57,707
September 8th - day of broadcast 15:36

634
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:59,371
To have the power that I had.

635
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:04,248
To be able to choose who went to Vietnam
and that he was not going to Vietnam.

636
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:07,961
That's a power in some cases
When I look at these names...

637
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:12,324
Maybe determine life or death,
 It's not a power I want to have.

638
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:17,242
Too strong or not,
to say that you are ashamed of him now?

639
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:22,407
Oh, I think that would be
something inappropriate.

640
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:26,571
I'm very, very sad.

641
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:32,967
What is going on?

642
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:36,525
The 60 minutes, at least about three.

643
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:39,809
Some of the documents seem a little weak,
you can appear there.

644
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:43,487
How about turning it around, opening with Barnes,
, then pass the documents?

645
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:45,648
Keep the chronology.

646
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:47,484
You have three hours.

647
00:38:47,720 --> 00:38:49,688
 Okay.
 Right.

648
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:52,247
Now this signature,
in the document of June 24th...

649
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:54,602
It shows some notable differences.

650
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:57,371
But it also shows some unnoticeable ones...

651
00:38:57,600 --> 00:38:59,648
No. Go back. It's still very long.

652
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:03,162
 Go back to the part where he is...
 You have to lose Matley.

653
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:05,687
We're 40 seconds over,
and he's a shit interview.

654
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:07,444
The graphic integration doesn't work.

655
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:11,326
It shows where new documents fail
with the originals. If we lose this...

656
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:14,000
 Look, we're out of time.

657
00:39:14,240 --> 00:39:16,686
You're the one in charge. What are we going to do?

658
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:21,930
Cut.

659
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:32,044
We need to finish in two minutes.
 I know.

660
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:38,129
If we don't finish in two minutes,
we are not going to have a program.

661
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:43,083
Lock it and start finishing.
If computer fails...

662
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:46,568
Tom, I love you, but shut the fuck up.
Okay. All right.

663
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:51,407
Eighteen new castaways
have not yet faced the biggest challenges.

664
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:56,208
Survivor: Vanuatu premieres Thursday
at 7, and 8, Central. Only on CBS.

665
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:58,801
Someone's going to get burned.

666
00:40:03,720 --> 00:40:06,929
The military records of the two men
who run for president...

667
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:10,363
They became part of the political arsenal
in this campaign.

668
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:13,131
A tool to build upwards
 or blow down...

669
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:17,962
The credibility of each candidate
as the next commander in chief of the United States.

670
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:22,165
While Senator Kerry has been targeted
about what he did in combat in Vietnam...

671
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:25,807
President Bush has been criticized
for avoiding Vietnam...

672
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:30,289
landing in a much more
Wanted in the Texas Air National Guard...

673
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:35,925
And then apparently didn't fulfill
some of his duties in the Guard.

674
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:40,449
Did Lt. Bush
Did you fulfill all your military commitments?

675
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:44,770
And how did he land in this coveted place in the world?
 Guard, first?

676
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,082
Tonight, we have new documents...

677
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:50,489
And new information
about the president's military service.

678
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:53,487
And the first interview
with the man who says

679
00:40:53,720 --> 00:40:56,371
He pulled the strings
for young George W. Bush...

680
00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:59,404
Join the Texas Air National Guard.

681
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:24,048
The president's time in the National Guard
 reappeared today.

682
00:42:24,240 --> 00:42:27,483
He enlisted in Texas,
transferred to Alabama...

683
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:31,571
 And he left early to watch...
 This is what our business has become.

684
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:35,765
Reports about reports. I mean,
because having the work of the latest news...

685
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:40,648
When all you have to do is just talk about
 other people, latest news, huh?

686
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:44,170
Thirty minutes from now, someone somewhere
will be doing...

687
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:48,649
A story about this guy
making a story about us.

688
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:51,963
You know what?
They will all win prizes.

689
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:53,964
This one mattered.

690
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:59,205
It was amazing. Even the child liked it.

691
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:00,686
Oh, really?

692
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:04,282
Yes. Yes, you are a
Reporter from hell, babe.

693
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:07,641
Alright, well, I'll go home tomorrow.

694
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:09,285
Okay, fly safe.

695
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:12,246
It's okay, I love you.
Goodbye.

696
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:49,406
Hey Mary?

697
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:53,564
What is happening? Because these...

698
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:58,049
These blogs are saying that memos can
be recreated in Microsoft Word.

699
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:02,723
Who is saying this?
 Well, it's a conservative site, but...

700
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:06,923
Each of these memos
is in proportional spacing to the font.

701
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:09,322
It's probably Palatino
or Times New Roman.

702
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:12,724
In 1972, typewriters
use monospaced fonts.

703
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:15,366
Proportionally Spaced Fonts
have not come into use

704
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:18,404
Until the introduction
of personal computers.

705
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:21,126
They were not very widespread
until the 90s. Before that...

706
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:25,922
You needed typesetting equipment.
This was not used for personal memos.

707
00:44:26,240 --> 00:44:28,766
I'm saying these documents are forgeries...

708
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:32,851
Copied through a
copier with 15 generations...

709
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:35,646
To make them look older.

710
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:39,647
Okay

711
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:50,489
Mary

712
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:53,401
What the hell is going on

713
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:57,687
 Not only is the spacing similar,
he is identical in every way.

714
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:01,646
It can be clearly seen that the date lines are for
 Above, the line breaks are in the same places...

715
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:06,329
All letters on the top line
with the same letters above and below.

716
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:08,648
And the kerning is exactly the same.

717
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:12,083
And I haven't changed a single thing
in the Word standard.

718
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:18,925
Margins, type size, tab stops, etc.,
are all using the default settings"

719
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:22,647
 What the hell are we going to do

720
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:25,285
Gil Schwartz - CBS public relations

With all due respect, you fucked yourself

721
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:30,002
We had four document examiners
It's neither one, said the memos were fake

722
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:32,727
Did any of them try to write in Microsoft Word?

723
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:35,087
I don't know,
I am not a document examiner.

724
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:39,365
But I suppose part of their job is to make
 I hope these things weren't aired last Thursday.

725
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:43,929
Just because guys on the Internet...
It's not just guys on the Internet.

726
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:45,724
ABC News is going after this.

727
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:48,241
Nightline.
You mean they're going after Dan?

728
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:50,841
Yes.
Tell them about the envelope.

729
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:53,725
It's the "th" that appears
after you write a number.

730
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:56,969
Like 111th.
Yes. I know what that is. What's on it?

731
00:45:57,160 --> 00:46:00,528
Bloggers are saying it's a great flag,
this was done on a computer.

732
00:46:00,720 --> 00:46:03,644
They say it didn't exist
on typewriters in the 1970s.

733
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:05,290
Well...
One of the examiners...

734
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:07,602
This concern was also raised.

735
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:09,389
Emily Will.

736
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:12,968
Yes, but Matley said she had them,
 but passed the decision on to him.

737
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:15,362
They will kill us, they will kill us and not only that.

738
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:19,610
I don't understand, what do they want?
They want us to say we are wrong.

739
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:21,165
Because if we're wrong...

740
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:25,251
All the questions we asked
about the president's service disappear.

741
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:27,722
Look.

742
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:30,121
We have document examiners, ok?

743
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:32,891
We have Bob Strong,
who worked at the headquarters of the Guard...

744
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:36,482
It says the notes are written
on the keyboard of the Guard of the time.

745
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:39,849
And we have Bobby Hodges,
Killian's official commander...

746
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:41,684
Which confirmed the content of the memos...

747
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:44,770
And which reflect the mental state of
Killian at the moment.

748
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:46,564
We have the story.

749
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:48,046
Well, rest assured.

750
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:49,890
Reconfirm with everyone.

751
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:54,165
And find us another damn "th"
in the official registry.

752
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:04,004
We need to find that "th".

753
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:11,486
Hi.
Yo.

754
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:17,409
Did you hear?
Yes yes. It's rubbish.

755
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:19,290
Pardon my French.

756
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:23,241
People have been attacking me for 30 years,
he's not about to start bothering you now.

757
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:25,005
Now, are you okay?

758
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:27,968
We're going to be in combat here, Dan.

759
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:32,848
I still have some good things left in me.
Did you manage to get your contract raised again?

760
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:36,362
I'm the head of the news division
I have work, I'll be fine.

761
00:47:36,720 --> 00:47:38,848
Now you're going to give me something
for me to hit back?

762
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:40,970
Yes sir.

763
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:45,844
The explosion happened at 10:30 local time
at the Australian embassy in Jakarta...

764
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:49,010
Killing nine people and injuring 180.

765
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:52,329
Jemaah Islamiah,
a Southeast Asian terrorist group...

766
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:54,727
He claimed responsibility for the attack.

767
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:57,890
 But several document experts
contacted by ABC News...

768
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:02,244
They raised serious questions about
the authenticity of these new documents.

769
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:06,724
They point out the font, the spacing
and the perfect printing of the letters...

770
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:11,084
They look more like they were created on a computer
 than on an old typewriter.

771
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:14,244
And there is this,
the little "th". Superscript

772
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:19,082
This is something that very few typewriters
could do in 1972.

773
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:23,569
You called
Hodges' residence. Please leave a message.

774
00:48:24,007 --> 00:48:25,054
General Hodges...

775
00:48:25,240 --> 00:48:29,245
This is Mary Mapes. We need to get in touch
 as quickly as possible. Can you call me?

776
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:30,965
Thanks.

777
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:41,002
 Avoiding Vietnam has followed him.
 Since he ran for governor of Texas...

778
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:46,001
And Mr. Bush has always denied it.
I liked it, I liked my service...

779
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:49,650
Nothing.

780
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:54,206
Are you done with these yet?

781
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:55,964
They were never mine.
Okay.

782
00:48:57,200 --> 00:49:00,443
 That he was a person who did n...

783
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:02,728
Staudt was already out of the Guard.

784
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:05,205
What are you talking about?

785
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:09,041
The CYA memorandum, dated August 18, 1973.

786
00:49:09,240 --> 00:49:14,883
Staudt has, obviously,
pressed Hodges further about Bush.

787
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:17,680
Staudt left the Guard in 1972.

788
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:20,087
So fuck, how come
 Could he still be pushing?

789
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:24,764
Listen, when a commanding officer...

790
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:29,249
No, bloggers are having a field day.
When a general leaves his post...

791
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:32,290
And will work for Quantico
on the same basis as...

792
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:36,565
He still exerts an enormous amount of
influence. It doesn't matter when he left.

793
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:38,762
Support me, Roger.
She's right.

794
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:41,926
Yes. Okay, well...

795
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:46,246
Forgive me for not thinking everyone will see it
 the same way you do.

796
00:49:56,840 --> 00:49:57,887
This is bad.

797
00:50:00,720 --> 00:50:05,567
No, when they start asking
to speak to our source...

798
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:07,683
Then it will be bad.

799
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:10,846
They're coming for us, Roger.

800
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:42,009
I have one.

801
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:43,804
What?

802
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:49,086
I have a superscript "th" here.

803
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:51,169
Josh!

804
00:50:54,351 --> 00:50:57,116
Call Dan,
tell him we joined the fight.

805
00:50:57,360 --> 00:51:01,410
George, so the experts can say,
positively that these were not typed...

806
00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:04,080
And they couldn't have been made
in the early 70s?

807
00:51:04,240 --> 00:51:07,005
They say all the clues point to it.
They're not doing that...

808
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:11,444
With an absolute 100 percent guarantee,
and CBS still stands by its story.

809
00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:14,729
yes, actually, they are too
pointing to another source...

810
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:16,610
A Colonel Robert Hodges...

811
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:19,411
That he was a hierarchical superior
from Mr. Killian.

812
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:22,524
They say they read the documents
to Colonel Hodges.

813
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:25,923
is he said, "It looks like what Killian
told me at the time."

814
00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:27,849
Hodges hasn't spoken to anyone yet.

815
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:31,411
Why can't we have it
on the fucking phone!

816
00:51:32,240 --> 00:51:34,891
These questions that raised
about the documents...

817
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:37,924
They focused on something called
superscript.

818
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:41,727
A key that automatically writes
a "th". on top

819
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:47,086
Critics claim that 1970s typewriters did not have this capability, but some did.

820
00:51:47,720 --> 00:51:51,645
In fact, Bush's other military records
released by the White House itself...

821
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:53,808
They show the same superscript.

822
00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:56,964
Here's one from 1968.

823
00:51:57,440 --> 00:51:58,805
Some analysts outside CBS...

824
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:02,851
They say they believe that the
source of these memos is New Times Roman...

825
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:05,964
They claim was not available
in the 70s.

826
00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:09,562
But the company owner
who distributes this type of writing...

827
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:12,525
It says it has been available since 1931.

828
00:52:12,720 --> 00:52:15,849
Marcel Matley, document and handwriting examiner...

829
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:18,611
He reviewed the documents for CBS News.

830
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:20,643
He says he believes they are real...

831
00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:24,367
But he's worried exactly
with what is being examined...

832
00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:27,609
By some of the people
now that they question the documents.

833
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:31,441
Why spoilage occurs
each time a document is copied.

834
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:35,770
And the documents being analyzed
outside CBS they had been photocopied...

835
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:38,128
Faxed, scanned and downloaded...

836
00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:42,086
And they are far away
of the documents that CBS started with.

837
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:46,365
Matley did this interview with us
before Wednesday's broadcast.

838
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:50,924
We basically look at what is called
significant or insignificant characteristics...

839
00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:54,124
To determine whether it is the same person or not.

840
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:57,244
Therefore, I have no problem identifying them.

841
00:52:57,480 --> 00:53:00,768
I would say based on our available
writing tests...

842
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:03,964
Yes, this is the same person.

843
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:08,171
Matley finds in the signatures
some of the most compelling evidence.

844
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:11,045
We spoke to him again today
by satellite.

845
00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:16,444
Are you surprised by the questions
about this? We're not, but are you surprised?

846
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:21,489
I knew when I walked in that this was dynamite
one way or another.

847
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:27,050
And I knew this could potentially do
much more damage to me professionally...

848
00:53:27,240 --> 00:53:28,890
Than benefit me.

849
00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:31,287
And... And I knew it.

850
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:35,525
But... But we seek the truth.
This is what we do.

851
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:39,009
And you're supposed to put yourself aside,
seek the truth...

852
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:41,567
And take what comes from it.

853
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:44,248
For the CBS evening news...

854
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:45,965
Reporter Dan Rather.

855
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:47,645
Goodnight.

856
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:50,207
And we're done.

857
00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:57,729
I told him I had it in me.
I'm calling Andrew now.

858
00:53:57,960 --> 00:53:59,849
F.E.A.
No jokes.

859
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:02,327
What do you think?
I think you stopped him.

860
00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:05,607
Bobby Hodges is on the phone.

861
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:12,930
General Hodges? This is Mary Mapes.
I have Dan Rather on the line with me.

862
00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:16,727
Why is The Washington Post describing me
as your trump card in this?

863
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:19,010
You and who told them that, Dan?

864
00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:20,725
I didn't say anything, sir.

865
00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:25,289
He says a highly placed CBS source
 referred to me as his trump card.

866
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:28,689
Well sir, that's not me
and it's not Dan.

867
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:32,362
Well, good, because I'm not.
I saw all the coverage.

868
00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:35,769
And I have to say
I think these memos are fake.

869
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:37,685
You...? Excuse me?

870
00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:40,526
I don't believe Jerry Killian
wrote these memos.

871
00:54:40,720 --> 00:54:42,404
Sir, when we talk about...

872
00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:46,843
September 6th... I'm sorry,
I'm just going through my notes.

873
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:50,886
When we spoke, you said that the
The contents of the memos were familiar to you.

874
00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:52,610
Is this correct?
Yes.

875
00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:56,691
And that they reflected
Colonel Killian's mental state at the time.

876
00:54:56,880 --> 00:54:58,370
And they do.

877
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:01,883
But I hadn't physically seen them.

878
00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:06,605
So what is that physically about the memos
Does it now make you doubt its authenticity?

879
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:09,565
Jerry's family says
that he didn't write them.

880
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:13,724
General, the truth of our
story was about what happened...

881
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:17,601
With the president's guard service.
Now, if, as you say...

882
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:20,246
Colonel Killian really made him feel
this way...

883
00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:24,240
And the things described
in the memos are true...

884
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:26,289
We would like to talk to you about this.

885
00:55:26,315 --> 00:55:29,603
I'm just telling you
I now believe, the memos are forgeries.

886
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:31,644
Forget the memos, sir.

887
00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:36,767
 What we present
about President Bush and accurate?

888
00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:42,446
I don't want to get in the middle of this.
Put him in front of a camera.

889
00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:46,603
Would you be willing if I came to visit you?
to talk to me in front of a camera?

890
00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:47,881
No, Dan, I'm sorry.

891
00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:50,321
Maybe after the election.

892
00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:53,171
Gneeral, if you...
Look, the family says they're fake.

893
00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:57,570
And I'm supporting the family, okay?
I am really sorry.

894
00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:01,603
Shit!

895
00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:04,531
Alright, what are we doing
about Hodges' retraction?

896
00:56:04,720 --> 00:56:06,563
We say we respect General Hodges...

897
00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:09,406
And we believed him the first time we spoke
 with him.

898
00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:13,127
ABC is coming
to two of our examiners.

899
00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:17,211
Emily Will and Linda James. They say never
authenticated the memos.

900
00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:18,966
Of course they didn't.

901
00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:20,730
Why?
They...

902
00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:22,251
They... They couldn't.

903
00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:28,403
Well, because they are copies.

904
00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:31,888
There's no ink or paper
original for, you know, testing.

905
00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:35,368
No one can say with 100 percent certainty
are they real or fakes.

906
00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:39,650
That's why they can attack us.
They're right, except on the internet...

907
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:43,049
These aspiring analysts are terrible.
So we are left with terrible analysts on our own.

908
00:56:43,240 --> 00:56:46,562
Our story was about whether connections
Bush took him to the Guard...

909
00:56:46,720 --> 00:56:49,041
And it was covered
when he missed appointments.

910
00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:50,884
All the research we found proves this.

911
00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:54,721
Documents, they were a small part.
They weren't the point of the story.

912
00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:57,810
It doesn't matter what the
point of the story. We have to...

913
00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:00,008
They can't do that.
Do what?

914
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:04,603
They don't reach is to knock
just to ask a fucking question.

915
00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:16,848
Monday morning...

916
00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:20,561
I want analysts to support us.

917
00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:23,051
Let's go.

918
00:57:46,935 --> 00:57:49,740
Don't forget to eat.
Dan

919
00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:06,849
Hello.
Hello.

920
00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:09,206
When did you join?

921
00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:13,764
I was worried there might be reporters
at the airport. I didn't want Robbie to see that.

922
00:59:14,120 --> 00:59:15,804
God, what are you doing here?

923
00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:19,325
Work.
Why don't you take a break?

924
00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:21,648
Go get dressed, we can go for a walk.

925
00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:25,890
No, I don't need to take a fucking walk.
I just want to sit here and do this, okay?

926
00:59:27,720 --> 00:59:30,564
This... Okay.

927
00:59:48,760 --> 00:59:50,524
Sorry.

928
00:59:51,840 --> 00:59:55,049
Everything is ok.
There's nothing.

929
00:59:55,240 --> 00:59:59,484
It's just... It doesn't matter what I say,
No matter what I do, I'm going to crash.

930
01:00:02,800 --> 01:00:04,370
This....

931
01:00:04,840 --> 01:00:06,729
This is not that.

932
01:00:10,080 --> 01:00:13,687
When my father was going to get on top of me,
I thought:

933
01:00:14,920 --> 01:00:16,524
I won't cry

934
01:00:16,720 --> 01:00:18,643
I won't ask him to stop

935
01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:22,043
I won't give you the satisfaction of seeing
how much this hurts.

936
01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:23,850
He will only go harder.

937
01:00:24,040 --> 01:00:28,728
And I thought:
"Any day, I'll fight you."

938
01:00:29,680 --> 01:00:32,331
Yeah, I never did it.

939
01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:40,524
Now.

940
01:00:42,760 --> 01:00:44,888
You have to fight now.

941
01:00:47,640 --> 01:00:51,725
Everything in these documents is the
What people are saying, it can't be done...

942
01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:55,362
As you said 32 years ago,
it's just totally false.

943
01:00:55,560 --> 01:00:59,201
It's not true. As I said,
proportional spacing was available.

944
01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:02,404
Envelopes were available
as a custom resource.

945
01:01:02,600 --> 01:01:06,491
Go back to the top of the list.
I find this useful, don't you Roger?

946
01:01:08,200 --> 01:01:10,009
Orders from above from Andrew.

947
01:01:10,200 --> 01:01:11,929
They want to talk to your source.

948
01:01:12,560 --> 01:01:15,484
Well, it's if my source
Don't want to talk to them?

949
01:01:15,680 --> 01:01:17,125
Then, you will convince her.

950
01:01:17,360 --> 01:01:20,921
You are good at convincing people
do things, right, Maria?

951
01:01:23,840 --> 01:01:26,844
I just want you to know how important
Your support has been...

952
01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:28,604
Throughout this entire process.

953
01:01:28,800 --> 01:01:31,565
Call your fucking source, Mary.

954
01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:37,050
Now...

955
01:01:37,680 --> 01:01:38,920
It's bad.

956
01:01:39,120 --> 01:01:41,202
You said he wouldn't have to.
I know Nicki, I just...

957
01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:44,921
Would you check the documents
and he wouldn't have to do anything else.

958
01:01:45,120 --> 01:01:47,930
Well, it didn't work out that way, did it?

959
01:01:48,280 --> 01:01:52,330
Oh, I'm so sorry, Nicki. I'm just...
 I'm just tired.

960
01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:55,004
Bill did nothing wrong.

961
01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:56,611
No one is saying he did.

962
01:01:56,800 --> 01:01:59,485
I just need him to talk on the phone
with my boss...

963
01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:01,364
And tell him what he told me.

964
01:02:06,240 --> 01:02:08,811
It would mean a lot to Dan.

965
01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:11,888
Would you please?

966
01:02:15,320 --> 01:02:18,608
Bill, this is Andrew Heyward,
I'm the president of CBS News.

967
01:02:18,800 --> 01:02:19,881
Is Dan there?

968
01:02:21,160 --> 01:02:22,730
I'm here, colonel.

969
01:02:22,960 --> 01:02:25,281
Well, I heard Hodges turned his back on you.

970
01:02:25,480 --> 01:02:27,960
All these guys are commanded by him.

971
01:02:28,160 --> 01:02:30,970
You know, I have health problems.

972
01:02:31,240 --> 01:02:35,165
I had already heard about it, that's why I don't want it
take up a lot of your time.

973
01:02:35,360 --> 01:02:38,284
I was wondering if you could enlighten me,
on some things.

974
01:02:38,520 --> 01:02:39,567
Say.

975
01:02:39,760 --> 01:02:42,445
Well how did you get in possession
of these documents.

976
01:02:42,640 --> 01:02:45,246
You told Mary it was a man named George
Conn?

977
01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:49,331
Well she was asking me so much
about this, that I had to tell you something.

978
01:02:51,800 --> 01:02:53,689
So this is not correct?

979
01:02:53,880 --> 01:02:57,123
No, sir, it is not.
Damn....

980
01:02:57,320 --> 01:03:00,324
Do you mind telling us
what really happened?

981
01:03:00,520 --> 01:03:02,363
I received a call in March from a guy...

982
01:03:02,560 --> 01:03:04,847
What a woman named Lucy Ramirez said...

983
01:03:05,040 --> 01:03:06,963
I wanted to get in touch with me.

984
01:03:07,160 --> 01:03:10,801
He told me to call the Houston hotel
Holiday Inn between 7 and 10...

985
01:03:11,000 --> 01:03:13,241
And ask for a specific room...

986
01:03:13,437 --> 01:03:15,124
So I did.

987
01:03:15,320 --> 01:03:18,369
Miss Ramirez told me,
She should be an intermediary...

988
01:03:18,600 --> 01:03:22,047
Between me is someone else for delivery
of a package of documents for me.

989
01:03:22,240 --> 01:03:24,846
And I should copy the documents...

990
01:03:25,040 --> 01:03:29,250
It then burns the originals, which were also
copies, is the envelope.

991
01:03:29,800 --> 01:03:31,882
Bullshit.
Destroy the DNA evidence...

992
01:03:32,120 --> 01:03:34,168
Where do they come from, you know?

993
01:03:34,360 --> 01:03:35,771
Yes of course.

994
01:03:35,960 --> 01:03:38,486
Then she says: Next when and what will you be
in Houston.

995
01:03:38,640 --> 01:03:41,610
I tell her, "We're going to
a cattle fair in a few weeks"

996
01:03:41,960 --> 01:03:43,689
We sell Simmental cattle

997
01:03:43,920 --> 01:03:47,527
The fair is excellent for advertising
 of our bull semen

998
01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:51,680
It's like this, on the first day at the fair,
a dark-skinned guy appears...

999
01:03:51,880 --> 01:03:54,451
give me an envelope, go away

1000
01:03:54,640 --> 01:03:56,210
Inside are these memos

1001
01:03:57,200 --> 01:03:59,487
I burned the rest like he said

1002
01:03:59,680 --> 01:04:00,841
Said is done

1003
01:04:02,680 --> 01:04:06,890
This was the same man
who spoke to you on the phone

1004
01:04:07,520 --> 01:04:10,330
I have no idea Maybe...

1005
01:04:10,520 --> 01:04:14,650
And you didn't tell Mary
all this before because....

1006
01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:18,407
Well, I... I said what would keep her quiet.

1007
01:04:18,600 --> 01:04:22,082
Mary did a good job on this subject.
Don't judge her too harshly.

1008
01:04:22,280 --> 01:04:24,282
Thanks, Bill.

1009
01:04:25,600 --> 01:04:28,126
Well, Bill, that is....

1010
01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:30,729
This is an incredible thing.

1011
01:04:31,200 --> 01:04:35,922
I wonder if you would be willing to go through
come and sit down and talk about this with us.

1012
01:04:36,120 --> 01:04:38,805
Help clean the air for everyone.

1013
01:04:39,000 --> 01:04:41,924
I don't know. What do you think, Dan?

1014
01:04:42,280 --> 01:04:46,968
I guess they can't hit us any harder
than they've already hit, colonel.

1015
01:04:47,480 --> 01:04:51,280
I would like to record and tell the truth.

1016
01:04:51,440 --> 01:04:53,249
End this.

1017
01:04:58,800 --> 01:05:00,131
Okay.

1018
01:05:00,720 --> 01:05:03,769
My office will handle
of the necessary measures.

1019
01:05:04,000 --> 01:05:06,480
Thank you for your time.
Goodbye.

1020
01:05:11,920 --> 01:05:15,402
We need him in the air as quickly as possible.
 Betsy! Yes.

1021
01:05:22,000 --> 01:05:24,287
Mary, can you wait a second?

1022
01:05:32,080 --> 01:05:35,448
With Burkett, there needs to be
a line of questioning about your motives.

1023
01:05:35,600 --> 01:05:39,446
Your political leanings, your views
about the president, because he lied!

1024
01:05:39,640 --> 01:05:42,769
People will cover it like we cover it.
We need to protect ourselves.

1025
01:05:42,920 --> 01:05:45,685
You must always protect the company.

1026
01:05:47,280 --> 01:05:49,362
I want Dan to survive this.

1027
01:05:51,280 --> 01:05:52,964
Why wouldn't he survive that?

1028
01:05:56,680 --> 01:06:01,368
If Dan feels this is
the company's position, he does not.

1029
01:06:01,600 --> 01:06:03,523
For me he won't know.

1030
01:06:03,960 --> 01:06:05,883
He will do it for you.

1031
01:06:19,960 --> 01:06:22,247
Oh Jesus.

1032
01:06:23,320 --> 01:06:25,004
Dan! Dan!

1033
01:06:25,200 --> 01:06:26,725
Mary, a comment?
Sorry guys.

1034
01:06:26,920 --> 01:06:28,001
This way. Right here.

1035
01:06:28,400 --> 01:06:31,006
Sorry. Forgive me, ma'am.
Dan, a comment please.

1036
01:06:31,200 --> 01:06:32,406
Pardon me.
Dan!

1037
01:06:32,600 --> 01:06:33,931
Sorry.
Dan!

1038
01:06:34,120 --> 01:06:36,930
You transmit these false memos.
Do you feel cheated?

1039
01:06:37,320 --> 01:06:40,130
Can confirm that memos were written
 in a word processor?

1040
01:06:41,240 --> 01:06:43,322
How do you feel
for betraying the American people?

1041
01:06:43,520 --> 01:06:44,726
Just drive.
Mary!

1042
01:06:44,920 --> 01:06:47,924
Who the hell are you?

1043
01:06:49,720 --> 01:06:50,801
Do you know anyone?

1044
01:06:50,960 --> 01:06:54,851
Yeah, see if you can just
stop it, right? Just get them to pull it.

1045
01:06:55,040 --> 01:06:56,849
Colonel.
Yes. All right. Goodbye.

1046
01:06:57,040 --> 01:07:00,044
Where are the Burketts?
Up there, getting ready.

1047
01:07:00,440 --> 01:07:01,885
Dan?

1048
01:07:02,120 --> 01:07:04,202
We need to ask why he lied to us, okay?

1049
01:07:04,400 --> 01:07:06,528
We need to make sure we pursue this.

1050
01:07:13,520 --> 01:07:16,364
I just wanted to say hello
before starting things.

1051
01:07:16,560 --> 01:07:19,086
Oh, thanks, Dan. I appreciate that.

1052
01:07:19,280 --> 01:07:21,203
How are you, my lady?
Hello.

1053
01:07:21,400 --> 01:07:24,961
Now, see, these things are quite easy.
We're just going to sit and talk.

1054
01:07:25,160 --> 01:07:26,321
Okay.
Okay.

1055
01:07:26,560 --> 01:07:30,326
Now, I'm going to ask you why you deceived us.
 I don't want you to be surprised.

1056
01:07:30,528 --> 01:07:32,610
No!!
I was waiting for this.

1057
01:07:32,800 --> 01:07:35,724
I'm happy to record what's correct.
Excellent.

1058
01:07:35,920 --> 01:07:41,211
Now if you need to stop, need a glass of water
or anything else, it's okay. OK?

1059
01:07:41,400 --> 01:07:44,131
Okay, if you'll excuse me,
I'm going to start my war paint.

1060
01:07:44,320 --> 01:07:46,721
This is the worst part of this job,
makeup.

1061
01:07:47,240 --> 01:07:49,129
The sound is ready when you are.

1062
01:07:49,760 --> 01:07:52,525
He's going to be okay, Nicki. OK?

1063
01:07:56,800 --> 01:07:57,801
Yes.

1064
01:07:58,000 --> 01:08:00,970
But you told us a different story.

1065
01:08:01,200 --> 01:08:04,170
To protect people
who gave me the documents.

1066
01:08:04,360 --> 01:08:06,283
Did they ask you to do this?

1067
01:08:06,480 --> 01:08:08,642
They wanted me to burn everything.

1068
01:08:09,320 --> 01:08:13,450
They don't want people to know
that they were the source of it all.

1069
01:08:13,640 --> 01:08:15,802
This man and this mystery woman.

1070
01:08:16,000 --> 01:08:19,686
That's right.
Can I please have some water?

1071
01:08:19,880 --> 01:08:21,848
Yes of course.

1072
01:08:23,920 --> 01:08:25,524
We need a better approach to this issue.

1073
01:08:25,720 --> 01:08:30,169
So maybe instead of, "Did they ask you to
do this?" we say, "Did they ask you to lie?"

1074
01:08:32,760 --> 01:08:34,125
Yes.

1075
01:08:34,680 --> 01:08:36,967
Yes. Okay.

1076
01:08:40,280 --> 01:08:43,124
Now, let's go back a moment.

1077
01:08:43,320 --> 01:08:44,367
OK.

1078
01:08:44,800 --> 01:08:50,045
This man and this mystery woman,
Did they ask you to lie to us?

1079
01:08:50,240 --> 01:08:54,802
They don't want you to say
How do I have the documents?

1080
01:08:55,000 --> 01:08:56,650
I see.

1081
01:08:56,840 --> 01:09:00,640
I see. Is that why you deceived us?
Yes.

1082
01:09:00,840 --> 01:09:05,084
Your producer was pressuring me to find out
 where I had gotten the memos.

1083
01:09:11,040 --> 01:09:12,405
I see.

1084
01:09:12,600 --> 01:09:15,524
So, is that why you lied to us?

1085
01:09:16,240 --> 01:09:17,605
Yes.

1086
01:09:17,840 --> 01:09:19,649
I know what caused it...

1087
01:09:19,880 --> 01:09:21,211
Some problems.

1088
01:09:21,400 --> 01:09:22,890
Pardon me.

1089
01:10:02,520 --> 01:10:03,885
When you are ready.
Yes.

1090
01:10:04,080 --> 01:10:05,730
Okay.

1091
01:10:07,720 --> 01:10:10,929
You said you knew these memos
would they cause problems?

1092
01:10:11,120 --> 01:10:15,011
I knew what he did,
But I didn't know that at the time.

1093
01:10:15,200 --> 01:10:18,841
I see. Now, once again...

1094
01:10:19,080 --> 01:10:22,880
Because you didn't tell us the truth
When did you give us these memos?

1095
01:10:23,840 --> 01:10:25,330
To protect people, Dan.

1096
01:10:27,200 --> 01:10:31,285
People who were trying to tell the truth
about what really happened at that time.

1097
01:10:33,160 --> 01:10:37,051
And do you believe that these documents
are they telling the truth?

1098
01:10:37,200 --> 01:10:38,804
Yes. Yes I do.

1099
01:10:39,240 --> 01:10:42,881
I see. I see, so...

1100
01:10:47,960 --> 01:10:50,440
We already have this.
I need to make sure that...

1101
01:10:50,680 --> 01:10:52,967
We have this. I will proceed forward.

1102
01:11:05,800 --> 01:11:07,325
He's a good guy, you know.

1103
01:11:07,520 --> 01:11:09,602
Do you think I liked that?

1104
01:11:10,760 --> 01:11:12,888
We should cut something for the evening news...

1105
01:11:13,120 --> 01:11:15,566
Take it off immediately. Andrew agrees.

1106
01:11:17,720 --> 01:11:19,085
F.E.A.

1107
01:11:20,640 --> 01:11:24,725
You know, you and Dan are always
say that. What the hell does that mean?

1108
01:11:25,520 --> 01:11:26,567
It's open.

1109
01:11:34,560 --> 01:11:36,210
Pardon me.

1110
01:11:38,280 --> 01:11:39,327
How is Bill?

1111
01:11:41,680 --> 01:11:44,729
Oh, don't you dare ask how Bill is.

1112
01:11:44,880 --> 01:11:48,851
Bill is sick. He is a sick man.
You don't care at all for him.

1113
01:11:49,400 --> 01:11:52,609
You only spent two hours
trying to destroy it.

1114
01:11:52,800 --> 01:11:55,280
You made him crawl in front of the cameras.

1115
01:11:55,480 --> 01:11:58,404
You made him say it over and over again
that he lied.

1116
01:11:58,600 --> 01:12:01,604
That wasn't enough for you.
You wanted more.

1117
01:12:01,760 --> 01:12:04,491
You wanted to blame him
of all the things you did wrong...

1118
01:12:04,640 --> 01:12:06,290
Putting this story together.

1119
01:12:06,480 --> 01:12:09,927
You wanted to wrap it up in a little package è
say, "It's Bill Burkett's fault."

1120
01:12:10,120 --> 01:12:12,248
Well, it's not, and you know it.

1121
01:12:12,440 --> 01:12:14,488
You promised when
we came here to do this interview

1122
01:12:14,720 --> 01:12:18,566
That we would receive fair treatment,
and from you we only have lies.

1123
01:12:18,760 --> 01:12:21,525
Nicky...
You might think I'm some stupid girl...

1124
01:12:21,720 --> 01:12:23,927
Who doesn't know anything about shit...

1125
01:12:24,120 --> 01:12:27,010
And you're so smart, so important.

1126
01:12:27,200 --> 01:12:28,565
But I keep my promises...

1127
01:12:28,760 --> 01:12:31,286
And I don't destroy people
to protect me.

1128
01:12:31,480 --> 01:12:34,962
I don't destroy people
and humiliate them...

1129
01:12:35,480 --> 01:12:39,451
And then pretend that I care
about how they are.

1130
01:12:40,440 --> 01:12:44,490
To answer your question,
Bill is not good.

1131
01:12:44,640 --> 01:12:46,927
But then you already knew that.

1132
01:13:18,520 --> 01:13:19,760
We need to talk.

1133
01:13:30,840 --> 01:13:33,571
What are the chances of having
something alcoholic there?

1134
01:13:34,520 --> 01:13:36,409
Better than average.

1135
01:13:42,920 --> 01:13:44,922
How long have we known each other?

1136
01:13:45,120 --> 01:13:47,885
Oh, Jesus, is it that bad?

1137
01:13:49,840 --> 01:13:52,446
They are starting an investigation.

1138
01:13:53,160 --> 01:13:56,369
And CBS wants to nominate
an independent panel...

1139
01:13:56,560 --> 01:13:59,291
To take a look at how the
story was put together.

1140
01:13:59,800 --> 01:14:01,802
And I will announce it.

1141
01:14:02,480 --> 01:14:03,970
Tomorrow.

1142
01:14:05,920 --> 01:14:10,801
I'm apologizing for the story,
in the air.

1143
01:14:12,200 --> 01:14:13,964
Andrew asked you to apologize?

1144
01:14:16,400 --> 01:14:18,368
He didn't ask.

1145
01:14:20,360 --> 01:14:24,410
Dan, this is... This is surrender.
Since Burkett changed his story...

1146
01:14:24,640 --> 01:14:27,883
Andrew feels that CBS
You can't take a risk on your reputation...

1147
01:14:28,080 --> 01:14:29,445
Oh, God. He knew.

1148
01:14:29,600 --> 01:14:32,683
Even before we went there.
Just wanted to get Burkett on tape.

1149
01:14:32,840 --> 01:14:34,683
Mary, you have to promise me something.

1150
01:14:35,520 --> 01:14:36,931
Stop worrying about me.

1151
01:14:37,160 --> 01:14:38,844
Well, that's not going to happen.

1152
01:14:39,040 --> 01:14:41,361
Now you have to protect yourself.

1153
01:14:43,160 --> 01:14:44,764
We all do.

1154
01:14:50,080 --> 01:14:52,162
Thanks for the drink.

1155
01:15:04,335 --> 01:15:06,622
Now, news on CBS News...

1156
01:15:06,800 --> 01:15:10,122
And the questions surrounding the documents
 that aired on this broadcast...

1157
01:15:10,320 --> 01:15:13,688
On the September edition of 60 Minutes,
  8th Wednesday.

1158
01:15:14,840 --> 01:15:18,003
The documents show that allegedly
George W. Bush received...

1159
01:15:18,240 --> 01:15:22,564
Preferential treatment during your years
in the Texas Air National Guard.

1160
01:15:22,760 --> 01:15:26,287
At the time, the
 CBS News is this reporter...

1161
01:15:26,480 --> 01:15:29,131
They fully believed that the documents
they were genuine.

1162
01:15:29,400 --> 01:15:32,006
Tonight, after an investigation
 more in depth...

1163
01:15:32,200 --> 01:15:35,568
We can no longer confirm
its authenticity.

1164
01:15:40,720 --> 01:15:43,246
I'm sorry this was your first story here.

1165
01:15:45,920 --> 01:15:49,970
I was thinking about next week...

1166
01:15:50,600 --> 01:15:53,171
All we have is Dan shooting the president.

1167
01:15:53,400 --> 01:15:55,641
It causes a lot less drama.

1168
01:16:00,680 --> 01:16:05,083
 Hey Mary, USA TODAY
I want to know if you can put Burkett in touch...

1169
01:16:05,280 --> 01:16:08,250
With the Kerry campaign
in exchange for documents.

1170
01:16:11,240 --> 01:16:14,767
I know what this is about. Josh,
Do you remember when I told you...

1171
01:16:15,000 --> 01:16:19,050
Burkett wanted to give advice to Kerry's campaign
in the Swift Boat material?

1172
01:16:20,040 --> 01:16:22,168
Remember, I wanted
do a crap check...

1173
01:16:22,360 --> 01:16:24,840
After he said he spoke to Howard Dean.

1174
01:16:25,040 --> 01:16:28,681
And you said I could get in touch
 with Kerry's colleagues to check.

1175
01:16:28,880 --> 01:16:31,360
So Burkett wanted me
 give your phone number...

1176
01:16:31,600 --> 01:16:33,762
And you said I could, so...

1177
01:16:33,960 --> 01:16:36,850
So... So I did.
 You!!

1178
01:16:37,000 --> 01:16:38,729
Don't you remember any of this?

1179
01:16:40,640 --> 01:16:42,051
I may not have been clear.

1180
01:16:42,280 --> 01:16:46,080
You must have misunderstood,
What was it that you could do.

1181
01:16:46,280 --> 01:16:48,886
Oh, Jesus Christ, this is....

1182
01:16:49,440 --> 01:16:52,603
This is unbelievable. I mean,
What the hell else is going to happen?

1183
01:16:52,800 --> 01:16:54,962
 Betsy...
No.

1184
01:16:55,360 --> 01:16:59,046
You already know what, Mary?
Maybe it's better if you go home.

1185
01:17:18,040 --> 01:17:19,849
The failure of CBS News...

1186
01:17:20,040 --> 01:17:23,761
To properly, fully control
documents and their sources...

1187
01:17:23,960 --> 01:17:28,887
It took us to display the documents
when we shouldn't have done it.

1188
01:17:29,440 --> 01:17:34,207
It was a mistake.
CBS News is deeply sorry.

1189
01:17:34,400 --> 01:17:39,850
Also, I want to say,
personally and directly, I am sorry.

1190
01:17:40,520 --> 01:17:44,969
CBS Hired Kirkpatrick's Firm
and Lockhart Nicholson Graham...

1191
01:17:45,160 --> 01:17:47,606
To hold a review panel.

1192
01:17:47,958 --> 01:17:50,184
You made their paper trail.

1193
01:17:50,840 --> 01:17:51,887
Of course.

1194
01:17:52,080 --> 01:17:56,051
They are a big company, they have about a thousand
attorneys based in Seattle.

1195
01:17:56,240 --> 01:17:59,050
They specialize in
 internal investigations.

1196
01:17:59,240 --> 01:18:03,370
They're the same ones Bush brought in last year
 to end WorldCom.

1197
01:18:03,560 --> 01:18:04,971
Are we as bad as them?

1198
01:18:05,200 --> 01:18:07,851
Oh, it gets even worse.
The panel...

1199
01:18:08,840 --> 01:18:13,528
It will be co-chaired by K and L partner
Richard Thornburgh.

1200
01:18:13,720 --> 01:18:17,167
He is the former governor of Pennsylvania
, first named...

1201
01:18:17,360 --> 01:18:19,567
Like the US lawyer below
 by Richard Nixon.

1202
01:18:19,760 --> 01:18:23,321
He ran for Congress twice.
Defeated both times by Democrats.

1203
01:18:23,520 --> 01:18:26,603
Your second campaign
 was directed by Karl Rove.

1204
01:18:26,840 --> 01:18:29,446
Yes.
But the crown jewel on your resume...

1205
01:18:29,680 --> 01:18:33,366
This is the time he served as attorney general
USA from '88 to '91

1206
01:18:33,600 --> 01:18:37,002
Under former President George H. W. Bush

1207
01:18:37,200 --> 01:18:39,009
Jesus.

1208
01:18:40,200 --> 01:18:41,247
Who goes first?

1209
01:18:41,680 --> 01:18:43,728
First Dan, then me...

1210
01:18:43,920 --> 01:18:48,050
Then Lucy, the colonel, then you.

1211
01:18:48,280 --> 01:18:49,520
You are the grand finale.

1212
01:18:49,720 --> 01:18:51,006
And why?  Why is it like that?

1213
01:18:51,240 --> 01:18:53,971
Because they want to have the
 as much as they want with you...

1214
01:18:54,200 --> 01:18:56,328
When they sit her in that chair.

1215
01:18:59,240 --> 01:19:01,129
Holy crap.

1216
01:19:04,240 --> 01:19:07,244
Yes, I'm sorry.
She doesn't speak reporters.

1217
01:19:07,840 --> 01:19:10,844
It's Heyward. If they add another person
 on the phone, hang up.

1218
01:19:11,640 --> 01:19:14,564
Company policy they can't fire you,
 if they don't have a witness on the line.

1219
01:19:14,760 --> 01:19:18,207
Thanks for the lively conversation. Andrew.
Mary.

1220
01:19:18,440 --> 01:19:21,728
We hired a private detective
to go back and check everything.

1221
01:19:22,080 --> 01:19:25,289
I need you to hand over your grades,
your emails, everything.

1222
01:19:25,480 --> 01:19:28,245
Listen, I was thinking,
If we could find the typewriter...

1223
01:19:28,440 --> 01:19:30,727
Stop working on the story.

1224
01:19:34,960 --> 01:19:40,729
Well, all the work on the Bush-Guard story
officially ceased.

1225
01:19:41,800 --> 01:19:43,484
I can't imagine why.

1226
01:19:48,240 --> 01:19:50,242
Hey, what are you looking at, friend?

1227
01:19:50,440 --> 01:19:52,010
The men with the cameras.

1228
01:19:56,000 --> 01:19:58,321
Are they your friends?

1229
01:20:06,520 --> 01:20:07,931
No.

1230
01:20:08,120 --> 01:20:09,281
Take him upstairs.

1231
01:20:12,680 --> 01:20:15,251
In other news,
CBS' internal investigation...

1232
01:20:15,440 --> 01:20:19,445
In his history of National service
George W Bush's guard begins today...

1233
01:20:19,640 --> 01:20:22,689
With the convening of a panel
 BlackRock valuation.

1234
01:20:27,880 --> 01:20:31,123
I left my wallet in a taxi.
I should be in front of the Bladrock panel.

1235
01:20:31,320 --> 01:20:32,446
You can't be here.

1236
01:20:32,680 --> 01:20:35,604
Pardon me?
You are not authorized in the building.

1237
01:20:35,800 --> 01:20:38,531
I'm not allowed in the building
according to whom?

1238
01:20:38,720 --> 01:20:41,769
Administration. You have to go, now.

1239
01:20:44,120 --> 01:20:47,090
Okay, you understand
what is happening here?

1240
01:20:47,320 --> 01:20:49,766
I understand that you are leaving.

1241
01:20:51,320 --> 01:20:55,006
Wow... Your parent company
is lobbying...

1242
01:20:55,240 --> 01:20:58,722
A Republican-controlled Congress for
 deregulation and tax breaks...

1243
01:20:58,920 --> 01:21:02,561
That could potentially save
hundreds of millions of dollars.

1244
01:21:02,720 --> 01:21:06,167
And we only broadcast a report that could
 cost those same Republicans...

1245
01:21:06,320 --> 01:21:09,210
 The presidency.
Security to the 10th floor now.

1246
01:21:09,680 --> 01:21:13,366
Do you think Viacom might need
from the administration on your side?

1247
01:21:13,560 --> 01:21:16,689
You think they might be desperate
make peace with him now?

1248
01:21:16,880 --> 01:21:20,601
produce for CBS live stories on
Abu Ghraib, the president, and Vietnam...

1249
01:21:20,800 --> 01:21:24,327
And all the other shit that ain't part of your
Scheduled agenda?

1250
01:21:24,560 --> 01:21:28,724
Of course everyone wants him to disappear.
This is a damn election at stake!

1251
01:21:29,360 --> 01:21:31,931
You're supposed to question everything.
That's your job.

1252
01:21:32,080 --> 01:21:36,130
We must question everything,
and, what, you're not even going to question this?

1253
01:21:37,120 --> 01:21:39,361
Are you done?
If I'm done?

1254
01:21:39,560 --> 01:21:41,847
Do you know when
FCC repealed cross-ownership laws...

1255
01:21:42,040 --> 01:21:45,726
A single company could own 45 percent
of participation in the national market?

1256
01:21:46,080 --> 01:21:48,845
Forty-five percent
of participation in the national market.

1257
01:21:49,040 --> 01:21:51,407
People freaked out.
They lost their shit.

1258
01:21:51,600 --> 01:21:54,410
They actually sat down
and wrote to their local congressmen.

1259
01:21:54,600 --> 01:21:57,285
Thus, in the 2003 bill,
guess what...

1260
01:21:57,480 --> 01:21:59,562
Congress overrules this.

1261
01:22:00,440 --> 01:22:03,489
Hooray for democracy, right?

1262
01:22:03,680 --> 01:22:06,001
No. The president would not sign it.

1263
01:22:06,200 --> 01:22:09,761
Bush threatened to veto the bill unless it was
 found a compromise in 39 percent.

1264
01:22:09,960 --> 01:22:11,007
And by 39 percent?

1265
01:22:11,160 --> 01:22:14,881
This is the exact percentage Viacom does not
have to sell any of their stations.

1266
01:22:15,080 --> 01:22:17,845
The President of the United States
I was ready to take it down...

1267
01:22:18,000 --> 01:22:22,642
The entire federal budget for
Viacom don't waste money!

1268
01:22:29,480 --> 01:22:31,084
You are sure.

1269
01:22:31,520 --> 01:22:34,649
Yes, we are... We are all in a bad way.

1270
01:22:34,960 --> 01:22:37,042
And you are the... You are the...

1271
01:22:37,240 --> 01:22:39,129
Brave, misunderstood hero.

1272
01:22:39,880 --> 01:22:42,963
It's not that you guys fucked up a story.
No, no, it's... it's...

1273
01:22:43,120 --> 01:22:45,771
It's a conspiracy, right?

1274
01:22:50,080 --> 01:22:52,401
They'll screw you too, you know.

1275
01:23:08,720 --> 01:23:11,485
Hey, I never got to ask you.

1276
01:23:12,000 --> 01:23:13,729
Why did you get into journalism?

1277
01:23:16,320 --> 01:23:18,163
Curiosity.

1278
01:23:20,760 --> 01:23:22,205
Is that all?

1279
01:23:23,680 --> 01:23:25,569
That's all.

1280
01:23:29,000 --> 01:23:30,968
Why did you come to this?

1281
01:23:34,000 --> 01:23:35,047
You.

1282
01:23:38,040 --> 01:23:41,965
Mr. Rather, the panel is ready for you.

1283
01:23:55,120 --> 01:23:59,125
It's still worse than we thought.
They ask if you intimidate sources or staff.

1284
01:23:59,280 --> 01:24:02,011
If you have physically intimidated people
to get what you wanted.

1285
01:24:02,160 --> 01:24:04,367
I hope you told them that
I regularly beat the shit out of you.

1286
01:24:04,560 --> 01:24:07,882
Mary, they... this...
This isn't a joke, right?

1287
01:24:08,080 --> 01:24:10,208
They asked about your politics.

1288
01:24:10,440 --> 01:24:14,445
The deck is stacked, ok?
The addicted game. Between this...

1289
01:24:14,720 --> 01:24:18,281
Radio program and your father,
It's a fucking lynching.

1290
01:24:19,000 --> 01:24:20,240
And what about my father?

1291
01:24:22,320 --> 01:24:25,210
Nothing. I... No... It's... Forget it.

1292
01:24:25,400 --> 01:24:27,368
What's wrong with my dad, Mike?

1293
01:24:28,040 --> 01:24:30,042
Look, I'm sorry, I thought you knew.

1294
01:24:32,560 --> 01:24:35,245
I'm ashamed of what my daughter
became.

1295
01:24:35,440 --> 01:24:36,441
You are?

1296
01:24:36,800 --> 01:24:38,848
She is a typical liberal.

1297
01:24:39,000 --> 01:24:41,207
She went into journalism
with an ax to sharpen...

1298
01:24:41,360 --> 01:24:44,045
 which was to promote radical feminism
.

1299
01:24:44,360 --> 01:24:47,762
So you would say
Is this a pattern of hers?

1300
01:24:47,920 --> 01:24:49,206
Oh, sure.

1301
01:24:49,360 --> 01:24:51,966
You know, when I heard this was
 A 60 Minutes story...

1302
01:24:52,120 --> 01:24:55,283
I realized she would be
the program producer.

1303
01:24:55,480 --> 01:24:57,847
She and Dan Rather have been working
 about this...

1304
01:24:58,000 --> 01:25:02,210
Since Bush was elected.
She must really be looking at George...

1305
01:25:13,440 --> 01:25:14,726
Hello?

1306
01:25:14,920 --> 01:25:17,207
You can't talk to the press anymore,
Don.

1307
01:25:17,360 --> 01:25:19,522
Who speaks?
 You know who you are.

1308
01:25:19,680 --> 01:25:21,523
Just for once in your life, be decent.

1309
01:25:21,720 --> 01:25:23,563
I am expressing my opinion.

1310
01:25:23,760 --> 01:25:26,286
I thought you reporters
everyone talked about it.

1311
01:25:26,440 --> 01:25:29,444
Okay, well,
If you don't stop talking to the press...

1312
01:25:29,640 --> 01:25:32,211
I'm going to fly there and leave
 your fucking arms.

1313
01:25:32,360 --> 01:25:34,010
How about that?
 Is it him?

1314
01:25:34,960 --> 01:25:37,691
 Here, let me talk to him.
 Sea...

1315
01:25:37,880 --> 01:25:39,564
 Mark, give me the phone.
 Sea...

1316
01:25:39,626 --> 01:25:41,643
Just give me the phone, Mark.

1317
01:25:43,000 --> 01:25:45,480
 Father?
 Yes.

1318
01:25:50,440 --> 01:25:52,727
Dad, please stop.

1319
01:25:54,280 --> 01:25:58,171
Well, since you asked, I'll go.

1320
01:26:23,160 --> 01:26:25,447
I can't anymore.

1321
01:26:26,800 --> 01:26:29,963
Yes, you can.
No, I don't want to.

1322
01:26:30,160 --> 01:26:33,369
They can have my career.
 I don't mind.

1323
01:26:33,880 --> 01:26:37,168
God, I should have never asked
the subject.

1324
01:26:38,200 --> 01:26:41,044
So what, they're right,
 are you wrong?

1325
01:26:41,400 --> 01:26:43,402
I think so.

1326
01:26:47,360 --> 01:26:51,649
And Dan?

1327
01:26:52,240 --> 01:26:53,651
That's not fair.

1328
01:26:53,808 --> 01:26:56,254
It's a shame
what this woman did to Dan Rather.

1329
01:26:56,440 --> 01:26:58,044
 That's what they're saying.
 No.

1330
01:26:58,200 --> 01:27:02,046
As he is going down,
Well, it's just a shame.

1331
01:27:02,840 --> 01:27:05,571
And if Robert starts to see you give up,
 It will be so good for him.

1332
01:27:05,720 --> 01:27:07,085
Oh, fuck.

1333
01:27:07,280 --> 01:27:09,044
Listen to me. Listen to me.

1334
01:27:09,240 --> 01:27:11,481
You have to present your case
to the panel, honey.

1335
01:27:11,680 --> 01:27:13,330
You have to fight.

1336
01:27:13,480 --> 01:27:15,881
 Even if manipulated by the system?
The system is rigged.

1337
01:27:16,080 --> 01:27:18,082
He always was. You know that.

1338
01:27:18,400 --> 01:27:21,210
You still have to tell them
what happened.

1339
01:27:23,520 --> 01:27:25,090
Why?

1340
01:27:28,840 --> 01:27:31,047
Because that's what we do.

1341
01:27:46,440 --> 01:27:50,240
So do you believe me?

1342
01:27:51,720 --> 01:27:54,200
Do you believe I did my job?

1343
01:27:54,680 --> 01:27:58,127
 I told him it doesn't matter what I believe.
  But for me it matters.

1344
01:27:59,160 --> 01:28:01,208
If you want someone else
 to represent her in this.

1345
01:28:01,360 --> 01:28:03,647
Why don't you tell me
If I shouldn't?

1346
01:28:05,880 --> 01:28:08,884
 What do you want with this?
 Sorry?

1347
01:28:09,040 --> 01:28:11,805
Do you want to engage in a debate about journalism?
with them...

1348
01:28:11,960 --> 01:28:15,282
 Or do you want to keep your job?
 Can't I do both?

1349
01:28:15,480 --> 01:28:17,881
Not at this moment, no.

1350
01:28:18,800 --> 01:28:21,041
You are the main breadwinner,
 correct?

1351
01:28:25,360 --> 01:28:26,805
Yes.

1352
01:28:26,960 --> 01:28:29,406
And your son is 7.

1353
01:28:30,720 --> 01:28:33,963
This is not a judgement,
 this is a fighter.

1354
01:28:34,160 --> 01:28:36,561
This is about assigning blame,
Who is to blame?

1355
01:28:36,720 --> 01:28:38,165
Because someone has to be.

1356
01:28:38,320 --> 01:28:40,721
Debate this with them, you're done.

1357
01:28:41,000 --> 01:28:43,207
You have a chance here.

1358
01:28:43,440 --> 01:28:46,364
In the middle of all those lawyers
 conservatives on that panel...

1359
01:28:46,520 --> 01:28:49,091
There is a former journalist
co-chair it.

1360
01:28:49,240 --> 01:28:52,801
Lou Boccardi, the former
head of the Press Association.

1361
01:28:52,960 --> 01:28:56,487
He's the only man who might
can understand what happened.

1362
01:28:56,680 --> 01:29:01,004
If you convince him,
he can perhaps convince others.

1363
01:29:01,360 --> 01:29:03,761
But if you antagonize them

1364
01:29:04,160 --> 01:29:06,561
If you bait them,
 if you fight them.

1365
01:29:06,720 --> 01:29:08,006
You will lose.

1366
01:29:11,120 --> 01:29:13,248
Damn you're hired.

1367
01:29:18,400 --> 01:29:20,926
You will cooperate in every way.

1368
01:29:21,680 --> 01:29:24,650
Follow all orders and instructions.

1369
01:29:24,800 --> 01:29:26,404
There is no pattern here.

1370
01:29:26,560 --> 01:29:30,804
There are no books full of journalistic laws,
unwritten codes.

1371
01:29:31,000 --> 01:29:32,923
There it is just opinion.

1372
01:29:33,120 --> 01:29:35,726
And we have to rock it.

1373
01:29:53,120 --> 01:29:54,724
That's Thornburgh.

1374
01:29:55,960 --> 01:29:58,611
 Who is the journalist?
 He's there.

1375
01:30:04,480 --> 01:30:06,608
Ms. Mapes, thank you for coming.

1376
01:30:06,760 --> 01:30:10,242
I'm Larry Lanpher. I lead the council
along with Mike Missal here.

1377
01:30:10,400 --> 01:30:11,765
Pleasure.

1378
01:30:11,960 --> 01:30:13,849
I notice there is no stenographer.

1379
01:30:14,040 --> 01:30:16,247
This is an internal investigation.

1380
01:30:16,400 --> 01:30:19,244
We're just taking
a few notes as we go.

1381
01:30:19,760 --> 01:30:21,808
So there will be no official record.

1382
01:30:22,560 --> 01:30:24,164
He is well.

1383
01:30:24,560 --> 01:30:27,723
Would you like to take a break to
 go to the bathroom before starting?

1384
01:30:27,880 --> 01:30:29,803
 I am fine.
He is sure?

1385
01:30:29,960 --> 01:30:31,121
I'm not that delicate.

1386
01:30:33,320 --> 01:30:36,085
 I would like one.
 Okay.

1387
01:30:36,320 --> 01:30:38,129
Start again in two minutes, everyone.

1388
01:30:45,120 --> 01:30:46,963
I want you to stay calm there.

1389
01:30:47,120 --> 01:30:49,691
 Don't I look calm?
 Not at all.

1390
01:30:50,400 --> 01:30:52,721
Now they will try
 catch her off balance.

1391
01:30:52,920 --> 01:30:55,366
When they ask you a question, answer.

1392
01:30:55,760 --> 01:30:58,127
Tell them what time it is,
not how to build a clock.

1393
01:30:58,280 --> 01:31:00,328
 But...
 Don't fight.

1394
01:31:01,320 --> 01:31:02,845
OK?

1395
01:31:05,200 --> 01:31:06,884
Okay.

1396
01:31:07,360 --> 01:31:08,407
Don't fight.

1397
01:31:20,880 --> 01:31:23,121
I would like to talk a little about language
.

1398
01:31:23,600 --> 01:31:25,409
Absolutely.

1399
01:31:25,600 --> 01:31:28,649
This is a printout of sent emails
back and forth by your group...

1400
01:31:28,800 --> 01:31:30,131
During the investigation.

1401
01:31:30,320 --> 01:31:33,290
In this one, for such a Mike Smith,
What do you two want to say?

1402
01:31:33,440 --> 01:31:37,650
When you refer
to a piece of "tasty breast"?

1403
01:31:39,520 --> 01:31:42,888
This refers to a piece of information
that Mike discovered.

1404
01:31:43,040 --> 01:31:46,089
Working on a documentary
for the Germans.

1405
01:31:46,720 --> 01:31:49,200
A piece of information
against the president?

1406
01:31:51,280 --> 01:31:55,205
I think specifically, it refers to Bush
lose courage during the flight.

1407
01:31:55,440 --> 01:31:58,967
What you didn't mention
in the report that aired on 60 Minutes.

1408
01:31:59,200 --> 01:32:01,521
I don't think we had it
 sent below.

1409
01:32:01,680 --> 01:32:03,205
Would it be correct to say...

1410
01:32:03,360 --> 01:32:06,569
You were looking for something
negative about the president?

1411
01:32:06,720 --> 01:32:09,485
I would say to be precise we were
looking for some information...

1412
01:32:09,640 --> 01:32:12,166
In your time at
Guard that had not come to light.

1413
01:32:12,400 --> 01:32:14,402
And that's what made it tasty?

1414
01:32:14,560 --> 01:32:17,530
Not because it reflected poorly
about the president?

1415
01:32:17,680 --> 01:32:22,129
It was delicious because
it had the potential to be news.

1416
01:32:22,280 --> 01:32:25,363
Look, Mike and I are friends,
That's why we use shorthand.

1417
01:32:25,560 --> 01:32:27,210
Sarcasm, jokes. You know.

1418
01:32:27,400 --> 01:32:29,482
Is this common in your industry?

1419
01:32:29,840 --> 01:32:30,887
I suppose.

1420
01:32:31,040 --> 01:32:34,840
When dealing with such serious issues
like these, is it common to make jokes?

1421
01:32:36,040 --> 01:32:40,045
I can assure you, that we will take the
 we take our work very, very seriously.

1422
01:32:41,920 --> 01:32:44,730
I also wanted to ask you
about this email...

1423
01:32:44,880 --> 01:32:50,489
From Roger Charles where he says
he feels better about the documents...

1424
01:32:50,640 --> 01:32:52,529
Because of its format.

1425
01:32:52,680 --> 01:32:55,763
Colonel Charles initially thought
that the documents were fake?

1426
01:32:56,240 --> 01:32:57,605
I don't believe .

1427
01:32:57,960 --> 01:33:01,567
So... So... Then why
Did he say he feels better?

1428
01:33:02,760 --> 01:33:06,128
Because it seemed that what our source
 told us was true.

1429
01:33:06,280 --> 01:33:11,605
I have to disagree. Even the
email subject line is "I feel better"...

1430
01:33:11,760 --> 01:33:14,491
With three exclamation marks.

1431
01:33:14,640 --> 01:33:17,211
It appears that Colonel Charles
Initially I had doubts.

1432
01:33:20,360 --> 01:33:23,125
I think you should ask
to Colonel Charles.

1433
01:33:27,360 --> 01:33:33,163
But also, I would say that he came
from a place I'm not sure of...

1434
01:33:33,320 --> 01:33:37,211
Whether the memos were real or not, and then become
confident that they were.

1435
01:33:37,400 --> 01:33:38,970
Really?

1436
01:33:39,680 --> 01:33:43,127
Forgive me for saying, but your testimony
So far it doesn't support it.

1437
01:33:43,280 --> 01:33:44,770
 Like this?
 Excuse me.

1438
01:33:44,920 --> 01:33:46,843
This isn't the testimony, remember?

1439
01:33:47,280 --> 01:33:49,601
If it were
impossible to authenticate the documents...

1440
01:33:49,760 --> 01:33:53,446
It's not even about giving reason, which you
initially assumed the memos were real...

1441
01:33:53,600 --> 01:33:56,968
 Instead of the other way around?
 I wouldn't say that.

1442
01:33:57,360 --> 01:33:58,805
Well, what would you say?

1443
01:33:59,640 --> 01:34:02,689
It seems you assumed that the memos
They were real from the beginning...

1444
01:34:02,880 --> 01:34:06,089
And you didn't look to make sure nothing
refuted this.

1445
01:34:06,280 --> 01:34:11,411
Essentially, you took the position that the president
He was guilty until proven innocent.

1446
01:34:12,120 --> 01:34:14,851
We took several steps to
veto these memos.

1447
01:34:15,080 --> 01:34:16,320
Such as?

1448
01:34:17,200 --> 01:34:18,406
 Well...
 There was just...

1449
01:34:18,600 --> 01:34:20,682
Two signatures,
just two sets of initials.

1450
01:34:20,880 --> 01:34:23,451
Who hardly has enough to
handwriting comparison.

1451
01:34:23,600 --> 01:34:27,047
And you told yourself that tests of
ink or carbon could not be realized.

1452
01:34:27,240 --> 01:34:30,926
In fact, two of the four analysts you
contractors said they had strong reservations...

1453
01:34:31,080 --> 01:34:32,650
About the authenticity of the memos.

1454
01:34:32,800 --> 01:34:36,805
Much of the format and terminology
used is consistent with the period of...

1455
01:34:37,000 --> 01:34:38,365
This is debatable.
It is consistent with the...

1456
01:34:38,520 --> 01:34:41,410
 period,
what is the content of the memos...

1457
01:34:41,560 --> 01:34:45,201
Which has been verified by multiple sources, including those
near Killian.

1458
01:34:45,360 --> 01:34:48,364
So, is this about it?

1459
01:34:51,240 --> 01:34:52,810
"OETR"?

1460
01:34:54,240 --> 01:34:57,562
This is one of the terminologies
which is consistent with the period?

1461
01:34:58,200 --> 01:34:59,201
I believe so.

1462
01:34:59,360 --> 01:35:03,285
 What does this represent?
 Reporting effectiveness and training officer.

1463
01:35:03,440 --> 01:35:07,331
In fact, the correct acronym is OER.

1464
01:35:07,480 --> 01:35:11,201
Reporting effectiveness officer. No.

1465
01:35:12,080 --> 01:35:15,607
Isn't it true Mary that "Officer of
Formation and effectiveness of the report" does not appear...

1466
01:35:15,760 --> 01:35:19,446
Anywhere in any official document,
and this is a phrase you created...

1467
01:35:19,600 --> 01:35:22,968
To explain this
Incorrect abbreviation in your notes?

1468
01:35:23,120 --> 01:35:25,646
That's not true.
 It is not?

1469
01:35:25,920 --> 01:35:29,606
 I wouldn't do something like that.
 Then prove it.

1470
01:35:49,560 --> 01:35:52,404
Official document, top of the page.

1471
01:35:54,160 --> 01:35:55,400
Tab 21.

1472
01:35:58,920 --> 01:36:01,161
Mike.
 Of course.

1473
01:36:01,846 --> 01:36:02,846
Missing or correcting the reporting effectiveness and training officer

1474
01:36:07,720 --> 01:36:09,404
I see this.

1475
01:36:09,560 --> 01:36:11,449
Sorry, my mistake.

1476
01:36:23,440 --> 01:36:25,283
Clearly, you were fine.

1477
01:36:25,440 --> 01:36:28,808
They will regroup,
call her back next month.

1478
01:36:28,960 --> 01:36:30,291
Next month?

1479
01:36:30,440 --> 01:36:34,411
They decided to delay and announce
the panel's conclusions after the election.

1480
01:36:35,960 --> 01:36:38,042
Don't be so sad.
Just keep your head down.

1481
01:36:38,200 --> 01:36:39,645
You'll make it out of this.

1482
01:36:44,400 --> 01:36:47,688
I look forward to serving
this country for another four years.

1483
01:36:48,040 --> 01:36:50,486
I want to thank everyone for
his hard work on the campaign.

1484
01:36:50,640 --> 01:36:55,009
I told you the other day probably
 He thought I was just looking for votes.

1485
01:36:56,880 --> 01:36:59,690
But now that you voted.
I really meant it.

1486
01:36:59,880 --> 01:37:02,008
Appreciation for the hard work of the press corps.

1487
01:37:02,160 --> 01:37:05,607
We put them in long hours. Being away from your
 families over a long period of time.

1488
01:37:05,760 --> 01:37:08,127
But the country is better
when we have...

1489
01:37:08,280 --> 01:37:10,647
A vigorous and free press
covering our elections.

1490
01:37:10,960 --> 01:37:12,405
And thank you for your work.

1491
01:37:12,560 --> 01:37:16,167
Without excessive pimping,
I will answer some questions.

1492
01:37:16,360 --> 01:37:17,691
Hunt?

1493
01:37:17,840 --> 01:37:20,207
Mr. President. Thanks.

1494
01:37:20,360 --> 01:37:24,763
How do you look back on your second term,
 how much more and what will the war in Iraq cost?

1495
01:37:24,920 --> 01:37:28,845
Do you intend to send more troops
or bring the troops home?

1496
01:37:29,000 --> 01:37:31,321
And in the Middle East more broadly.

1497
01:37:31,480 --> 01:37:35,201
Do you agree with Tony Blair
than the revitalization of the Middle East.

1498
01:37:35,360 --> 01:37:40,730
The peace process is the single most important political issue
pressure the world faces?

1499
01:37:41,120 --> 01:37:43,088
Now that I have
the will of the people behind me.

1500
01:37:43,240 --> 01:37:47,211
I'll start enforcing
the one-question rule.

1501
01:37:47,720 --> 01:37:49,006
That was three questions.

1502
01:37:52,560 --> 01:37:54,528
I'll start with Tony Blair's comments.

1503
01:37:54,720 --> 01:37:57,769
I agree with him that peace in the Middle East
It's very...

1504
01:38:06,560 --> 01:38:07,607
Hello?

1505
01:38:09,880 --> 01:38:13,521
Mary, it's Dan plus three.

1506
01:38:13,680 --> 01:38:17,287
Well I'm working on a cocktail
Xanax Chardonnay...

1507
01:38:17,440 --> 01:38:19,681
If it makes you feel better.

1508
01:38:19,840 --> 01:38:23,447
Did you know that 60 Minutes
It was the first news program...

1509
01:38:23,600 --> 01:38:25,523
Always making money?

1510
01:38:26,240 --> 01:38:29,687
Before that, all news stations
operated at a financial loss.

1511
01:38:32,000 --> 01:38:36,528
You know, when the government
gave the waves networks...

1512
01:38:36,760 --> 01:38:39,445
It was with the stipulation that...

1513
01:38:39,640 --> 01:38:43,326
They would be used in some capacity
for the public good.

1514
01:38:43,560 --> 01:38:45,324
And that... That was the news.

1515
01:38:45,520 --> 01:38:48,000
They... They earned their money from
 another way in programming.

1516
01:38:48,200 --> 01:38:51,443
But reporting the news was a duty.
It was...

1517
01:38:51,800 --> 01:38:52,961
It was a relationship of trust.

1518
01:38:54,440 --> 01:38:58,001
You know when Don Hewitt
60 minutes started, it was in 1968...

1519
01:38:58,240 --> 01:39:01,164
It got huge audiences.
God, it was...

1520
01:39:01,360 --> 01:39:03,328
God, it was wonderful.

1521
01:39:03,480 --> 01:39:08,281
I mean, people were really
watching the news. I mean, they cared.

1522
01:39:08,800 --> 01:39:11,485
And, God, we found ourselves
a way to give that to them.

1523
01:39:11,640 --> 01:39:13,563
I was there, Mary.

1524
01:39:14,320 --> 01:39:18,723
I was there the day they found out
that with the news they could make money.

1525
01:39:21,600 --> 01:39:24,410
After a while it dawned on them,
Why is the evening news...

1526
01:39:24,600 --> 01:39:26,921
It’s not a profit center either.

1527
01:39:27,080 --> 01:39:30,209
Because they are the morning shows
who earn the most.

1528
01:39:31,880 --> 01:39:35,441
If you interview Survivor contestants
instead of genocide survivors...

1529
01:39:35,600 --> 01:39:38,001
Your ad rates will go up.

1530
01:39:40,880 --> 01:39:45,329
Very soon we won't even chase anymore
 of our stories because it is very expensive.

1531
01:39:45,480 --> 01:39:46,891
Let's go...

1532
01:39:48,280 --> 01:39:53,047
We'll pay someone to do it,
then you will read them on air on the program.

1533
01:39:56,320 --> 01:39:59,290
It was once a public trust.

1534
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:02,287
I swear to you it was.

1535
01:40:04,680 --> 01:40:06,762
How are you doing, Dan?

1536
01:40:09,920 --> 01:40:11,729
I'm leaving the pivot position.

1537
01:40:17,000 --> 01:40:18,286
When?

1538
01:40:19,760 --> 01:40:21,683
After the inauguration.

1539
01:40:26,560 --> 01:40:28,528
Oh, Dan.

1540
01:40:30,200 --> 01:40:31,565
You didn't cause this, Mary.

1541
01:40:32,040 --> 01:40:35,123
Well you're a fucking liar,
do you know that?

1542
01:40:40,080 --> 01:40:41,570
Why don't you ask me?

1543
01:40:42,040 --> 01:40:45,408
Because God knows what everyone does
when shit knocks on your door.

1544
01:40:45,600 --> 01:40:47,523
Why didn't you do it?

1545
01:40:48,120 --> 01:40:49,724
Ask him what?

1546
01:40:49,960 --> 01:40:53,123
Why don't you
ask if the documents were real?

1547
01:40:55,240 --> 01:40:57,447
Because I knew I didn't need it.

1548
01:41:00,400 --> 01:41:01,447
Hey.

1549
01:41:01,600 --> 01:41:04,604
When you get back there,
 keep your head up, do you understand?

1550
01:41:06,200 --> 01:41:07,850
Yes, Dan.

1551
01:41:08,760 --> 01:41:10,842
Okay. F.E.A.

1552
01:41:14,280 --> 01:41:16,408
F.E.A.

1553
01:41:49,760 --> 01:41:51,603
You are doing very well.

1554
01:41:52,480 --> 01:41:54,801
Another half hour, and it's done.

1555
01:41:57,360 --> 01:41:58,566
What does this mean?

1556
01:42:02,440 --> 01:42:06,206
Fuck 'em all.

1557
01:42:11,080 --> 01:42:14,004
Well I'm glad for us
 we have clarified this.

1558
01:42:14,160 --> 01:42:17,687
 Good.
 Well, if there's nothing else...

1559
01:42:17,880 --> 01:42:20,087
Thank you, gentlemen, for the day.

1560
01:42:23,480 --> 01:42:26,927
You won't ask me about mine
politics?

1561
01:42:28,480 --> 01:42:30,130
Pardon me?

1562
01:42:30,320 --> 01:42:34,564
You asked other people what I believe in,
so you won't ask me?

1563
01:42:35,480 --> 01:42:36,527
What are you doing?

1564
01:42:37,120 --> 01:42:41,842
Well, would you say that most people
who you worked with consider you a liberal?

1565
01:42:44,880 --> 01:42:48,680
Do you mean, "I am now
or was I ever a liberal?"

1566
01:42:59,200 --> 01:43:02,010
It's a legitimate question.

1567
01:43:02,640 --> 01:43:03,641
AND?

1568
01:43:03,840 --> 01:43:05,285
Well, you brought her up.

1569
01:43:06,320 --> 01:43:09,290
No, you were the one who did it, when you asked everyone
 my co-workers.

1570
01:43:09,720 --> 01:43:10,801
So I'll tell you.

1571
01:43:11,000 --> 01:43:14,368
I don't believe in labels. I think the majority
 Most people have a mix of opinions...

1572
01:43:14,520 --> 01:43:16,284
That's not what we're talking about.

1573
01:43:16,440 --> 01:43:18,488
So what are you talking about, Larry?

1574
01:43:18,680 --> 01:43:21,843
What we're talking about is you bringing
your policy for your report.

1575
01:43:22,000 --> 01:43:24,765
I didn't do anything like that.
 Nothing? Serious?

1576
01:43:24,920 --> 01:43:27,764
And that's why when Barnes said that
he stayed with Bush in the Guard...

1577
01:43:27,920 --> 01:43:29,649
Did you believe him without questioning him?

1578
01:43:29,800 --> 01:43:33,327
That when Bill Burkett, a self-confessed critic
Bush and an admitted liar...

1579
01:43:33,600 --> 01:43:37,491
I brought you the memos, you assumed authenticity
 and didn't worry about their source?

1580
01:43:37,680 --> 01:43:41,526
That's when not one, but two
of the four document examiners...

1581
01:43:41,720 --> 01:43:43,643
He expressed doubts whether the memos were real...

1582
01:43:43,800 --> 01:43:45,962
You put it aside and ran
putting this on the air?

1583
01:43:46,120 --> 01:43:49,044
Or because you personally contacted
John Kerry's campaign...

1584
01:43:49,240 --> 01:43:52,210
In the name of Bill Burkett,
a man who dedicated himself...

1585
01:43:52,360 --> 01:43:54,362
Tarnishing the president?

1586
01:43:54,560 --> 01:43:55,846
Tell me, Mary.

1587
01:43:56,040 --> 01:43:59,965
Where exactly this policy
Don't you get into this?

1588
01:44:00,560 --> 01:44:03,325
Or are you just
 really bad at your job?

1589
01:44:04,160 --> 01:44:06,811
You know what it would take
to falsify these memos?

1590
01:44:06,960 --> 01:44:09,247
 Maria...
No, this is important.

1591
01:44:09,400 --> 01:44:12,961
Would require the forger
have in-depth knowledge...

1592
01:44:13,120 --> 01:44:17,330
From the 1971 Air Force manual, including rules...

1593
01:44:17,520 --> 01:44:19,966
And regulations and abbreviations.

1594
01:44:20,120 --> 01:44:22,771
He would have to know back
forward Bush's official record...

1595
01:44:22,920 --> 01:44:25,366
To make sure that none of the memos
I was conflicted about this.

1596
01:44:25,520 --> 01:44:28,683
He would have to know about all the players
from the Texas Air National Guard...

1597
01:44:28,840 --> 01:44:32,401
At the moment... Not just their names,
But your attitudes, your opinions...

1598
01:44:32,560 --> 01:44:34,608
Including how
they related to each other.

1599
01:44:34,760 --> 01:44:37,809
He would have to know Colonel Killian
kept personal memos like this...

1600
01:44:38,000 --> 01:44:39,809
For yourself first.

1601
01:44:40,000 --> 01:44:42,606
He would have to know
How Killian felt at the moment...

1602
01:44:42,760 --> 01:44:46,970
Particularly about your superiors
and then First Lieutenant Bush.

1603
01:44:47,120 --> 01:44:50,761
He would have to know
or learn all this.

1604
01:44:50,920 --> 01:44:54,970
To deceive us
as you say he did.

1605
01:44:55,120 --> 01:44:56,565
Now...

1606
01:44:57,200 --> 01:44:59,680
Do you really think a man...

1607
01:44:59,840 --> 01:45:02,844
That takes this kind of time and precision...

1608
01:45:03,000 --> 01:45:06,368
So go and write something like this
in Microsoft Word?

1609
01:45:13,560 --> 01:45:19,169
Our story was about whether Bush
I fulfill your service.

1610
01:45:19,320 --> 01:45:22,244
Nobody wants to talk about it.
They want to talk about fonts...

1611
01:45:22,400 --> 01:45:24,402
And fakes and conspiracy theories.

1612
01:45:24,560 --> 01:45:28,485
Because that's what people do
these days if they don't like a story.

1613
01:45:28,640 --> 01:45:30,369
They point and shout.

1614
01:45:30,520 --> 01:45:33,126
They question your policy,
its objectivity. Hell...

1615
01:45:33,280 --> 01:45:34,520
Your basic humanity.

1616
01:45:34,760 --> 01:45:38,321
And they ask God
if the truth is lost in formation.

1617
01:45:38,560 --> 01:45:40,244
And when it finally ended...

1618
01:45:40,400 --> 01:45:43,483
And he kicked
and screamed so loud...

1619
01:45:43,640 --> 01:45:46,962
That I don't even remember
what a point it was....

1620
01:45:48,200 --> 01:45:50,771
But you haven't proven it.

1621
01:45:52,840 --> 01:45:57,209
You haven't proven that Ben Barnes
has the president in the Guard.

1622
01:45:57,480 --> 01:46:00,086
You haven't proven that the memos are real.

1623
01:46:00,280 --> 01:46:03,568
The burden of proof is on you.

1624
01:46:03,760 --> 01:46:07,082
By that standard, The Times never
should have the Pentagon Papers.

1625
01:46:07,247 --> 01:46:09,329
The Post wouldn't have listened
 deep throat...

1626
01:46:09,480 --> 01:46:13,724
 Ben Barnes is hardly Deep Throat.
 Ben Barnes confessed to abusing his power...

1627
01:46:13,880 --> 01:46:16,565
To keep some of the richest,
and privileged children of Texas...

1628
01:46:16,760 --> 01:46:19,047
To see their asses
explode in Vietnam.

1629
01:46:19,200 --> 01:46:20,804
Ms. Mapes.

1630
01:46:21,560 --> 01:46:24,086
You don't think it's possible, just possible...

1631
01:46:24,800 --> 01:46:26,768
That some of those young people...

1632
01:46:26,960 --> 01:46:29,361
Privileged men, as you call them...

1633
01:46:29,600 --> 01:46:35,289
join the National Guard
on your own merit

1634
01:46:45,320 --> 01:46:48,608
No, sir No, I don't think so

1635
01:47:07,920 --> 01:47:09,490
You had to do this, didn't you?

1636
01:47:10,480 --> 01:47:13,723
In the immortal words of Popeye,
"I am what I am."

1637
01:47:14,600 --> 01:47:17,888
Well I would have gone with
"To thine own true being" but.

1638
01:47:18,040 --> 01:47:19,929
Popeye works.

1639
01:47:20,120 --> 01:47:23,329
They will have the results in a few weeks.
I'll call you when I find out.

1640
01:47:23,480 --> 01:47:26,723
All good. Thanks.

1641
01:47:29,680 --> 01:47:31,444
Hey, Mary.

1642
01:47:33,040 --> 01:47:34,849
I believe in you.

1643
01:47:46,880 --> 01:47:51,408
But I think he needs a helmet.
Do you have a helmet?

1644
01:47:52,120 --> 01:47:56,409
A helmet?
He needs a helmet.

1645
01:47:56,560 --> 01:47:59,291
Oh, he has no head.

1646
01:47:59,440 --> 01:48:01,727
Can you find a head?

1647
01:48:03,800 --> 01:48:05,290
No.

1648
01:48:07,080 --> 01:48:11,688
 Unless you want to cut off your head...
 Should I cut off his head? Perhaps.

1649
01:48:18,560 --> 01:48:20,050
Hello?

1650
01:48:20,200 --> 01:48:23,682
Mary, the report is out
and it's very bad.

1651
01:48:24,600 --> 01:48:26,568
I'm putting Jonathan Anschultz
on the line.

1652
01:48:26,720 --> 01:48:28,768
 Jonathan, can you hear?
 Yes.

1653
01:48:29,040 --> 01:48:32,328
Mary, like I said, the report is bad.
You're being fired.

1654
01:48:34,040 --> 01:48:37,761
Well, it's not something I would have chosen
do under the circumstances, but....

1655
01:50:36,280 --> 01:50:37,645
Hippie scum.

1656
01:50:38,600 --> 01:50:40,682
Fuck Jarhead.

1657
01:50:44,400 --> 01:50:45,925
If you need a reference...

1658
01:50:46,280 --> 01:50:47,611
What, can you...

1659
01:50:47,760 --> 01:50:50,411
Tell them how we together destroyed
modern journalism?

1660
01:50:57,720 --> 01:50:59,688
I'll see you around.

1661
01:51:04,480 --> 01:51:09,691
We have shared a lot over the 24 years.
We have been meeting here every night.

1662
01:51:10,200 --> 01:51:15,286
And before you say good night,
Tonight, I need to say thank you.

1663
01:51:15,720 --> 01:51:19,691
Thank you to the thousands of
wonderful professionals at CBS News...

1664
01:51:19,840 --> 01:51:21,604
Past and present...

1665
01:51:21,800 --> 01:51:25,361
Who was it with?
It's been my honor to work over these years.

1666
01:51:26,640 --> 01:51:29,610
And a heartfelt thanks to all of you...

1667
01:51:29,760 --> 01:51:33,526
Who lets us into their homes
night after night.

1668
01:51:33,760 --> 01:51:38,482
It's been a privilege,
and one, never taken lightly.

1669
01:51:39,160 --> 01:51:44,690
For a nation still healing a
heartbroken by what happened here in 2001

1670
01:51:44,880 --> 01:51:47,611
And especially those who
find closer...

1671
01:51:47,800 --> 01:51:49,802
To the events of September 11th.

1672
01:51:51,120 --> 01:51:56,047
For our soldiers, our sailors, our
airmen and marines in dangerous places.

1673
01:51:56,880 --> 01:52:00,009
And for those who have endured
the tsunami.

1674
01:52:00,160 --> 01:52:03,004
And to all those who have suffered natural disasters...

1675
01:52:03,160 --> 01:52:06,164
And whoever finds the will to rebuild.

1676
01:52:06,640 --> 01:52:11,009
For the oppressed and for those
whose destiny is to fight...

1677
01:52:11,200 --> 01:52:14,921
In financial difficulties
or in poor health.

1678
01:52:16,360 --> 01:52:17,885
To my fellow journalists...

1679
01:52:18,320 --> 01:52:22,769
In places where to report the truth
It means risking everything.

1680
01:52:23,400 --> 01:52:26,290
And for each of you...

1681
01:52:27,240 --> 01:52:28,765
Courage.

1682
01:52:29,960 --> 01:52:33,362
For the CBS Evening News, reporting
Dan Rather.

1683
01:52:34,880 --> 01:52:36,450
Goodnight.

1684
01:53:42,381 --> 01:53:47,046
The independent panel report found no evidence
 of political references in the story of the guard.

1685
01:53:47,186 --> 01:53:52,163
Josh Howard, Mary Murphy, and Betsy West were invited
 resigning, Mary Mapes was fired

1686
01:53:54,202 --> 01:53:58,865
Dan Rather left CBS suing it for breach of contract,
 claiming he was removed to appease the White House

1687
01:53:59,014 --> 01:54:02,912
The lawsuit was dismissed by a state court
 of appeals

1688
01:54:14,040 --> 01:54:16,088
My God.

1689
01:54:19,280 --> 01:54:21,169
Do you want to go for a walk?

1690
01:54:21,320 --> 01:54:22,810
Yes.

1691
01:54:37,777 --> 01:54:44,261
Following Mary Mapes, laid off from CBS News, she gained a
 Peabody for his reporting on Abu Ghraib.

1692
01:54:46,988 --> 01:54:51,690
And it was considered one of the most important
 pieces of journalism of the decade.

1693
01:54:54,328 --> 01:55:02,523
Mary Mapes, no longer worked in the news
 of television since 2004.

1694
01:55:03,137 --> 01:55:10,285
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